What Is So Wrong With The St. Luke's Campus?


They claim there's a wetlands, but hospitals and many facilities displace wetlands all the time. Or they'll say, "It's hard to build new and run the current one at the same time" . This is very surmountable as well; first, and as proof the MVHS's Board of Directors unanimously voted for the St. Luke’s campus at the same time they voted on downtown, and second, consider "hospital demolition/construction occurred less than 50 ft from existing operating room... surgeons never missed a operation."

While the hospital administration has stated, "Our elected officials say the money can only be used for the downtown site", this is not true. Per Senator Griffo who states, "locate the hospital wherever it makes the most sense". If it was otherwise, why are politicians steering our hospital's and the region's healthcare investments? Furthermore, why did the hospital look for suitable sights ten mile outside of Utica? There are so many conflicting statements and questions.

So we ask, what's so wrong with St. Luke's? Well, it seems the easiest question is, "What's so great about St. Luke's?"

Please let us share a few reasons...

1. The St. Luke's Campus offers a large, 64-acre, site.

Another way to look at this is offered here Plenty of Room for New Hospital and Large Medical Office Building. Still another way to look at land uses is to compare the proposed downtown location with that of the St. Luke's campus. Below we have placed the St. Luke's Campus on top of a map of Downtown Utica...

It's clear that historic Downtown Utica would be obliterated by a senseless, an inner-city, hospital district.

2. The Mohawk Valley Health System owns no land in downtown Utica, yet owns all 64-acres at St. Luke's.

A former hospital board member told #NoHospitalDowntown, "Why are they looking at downtown? St. Luke's has been aquiring land for many years for this exact purposes, future expansion."

3. Utica College has many shared programs with St. Luke's hospital - and St. Luke's nursing home.

Today "Eds and Meds" are already in place at the St. Luke's Campus with neighboring Utica College. For example, Health Care Administration Curriculum, Healthcare Advocacy and Navigation, and Neuro Science...

Students can also walk across the street and gain first hand experience at St. Luke's Hospital, but also St. Luke's Nursing Home

4. Shared power plant that's good for environment

If St. Luke's hospital closes/departs, the energy costs to the St. Luke's Nursing Home and Utica College escalate significantly, $800,000 annually! This as the three institutions at St. Luke's share a modern micro-grid, super efficient co-generation power plant.

5. St. Luke's sits on a green hilltop!

Count the ways in which this fact is better than the proposed downtown location: (a) Clean air, (b) Nice views from hospital room windows, better site for much more pleasant walking trails, (c) Less congested roads, (d) Less noise, and (e) Easy helicopter landing/safer flight paths.

6. Much of the St. Luke's hospital is not 60 years-old, a large percentage is much newer

Saying that St. Luke's Hospital is too old, at 60 years old, is not a fully accurate statement. Only about 25% of the original hospital is 60-years old, leaving 75% much newer and parts are even very modern!

The more money spent on trying to evict businesses and destroying downtown, is the less funding can be placed into healthcare.

7. Inner cities are poorer than outlying neighborhoods; hospital is safer on this campus

"The BJH (Barnes-Jewish Hospital) campus is an urban one located near downtown St. Louis hot spots. City streets pass through the campus, making it a busy location. Like any inner-city institution, BJH is vulnerable to crime. That comes with the territory, but employees were shocked."

8. Travel time to large part of population is shorter

9. Keep St. Luke's, or expand there, and no need to re-purposed two abandoned hospitals campuses

Don't abandon St. Luke's and St. Elizabeth's, because the area does not have a very good track record. Consider abandon sites that are still vacant and or under utilized; Old Main (100 acres), Charlestown Mall (18.5 acres), Bendix/TRW on Seward Avenue (12.3 acres), Bossert Manufacturing, Harbor Point, Leland Area, GE Plant on Broad Street (23 acres), downtown ConMed building (1.1 acres), Old GE plant at Culver & Bleecker Streets (10.5 acres), Washington Courts (5.5 acres), Mele Manufacturing on Erie Street (6.3 acres), Dunlap on Oriskany Blvd (3.78 acres) and a few old schools.

10. If hospital departs, surrounding investments that established to serve hospital are stranded

11. Hospital is on city bus route (College, hospital, nursing home together supports bus system/route)

12. Hospital and nursing home are synergistic and positively co-dependent

13. Slocum Dickson Medical Group, and other medical facilities in and around the Utica Business Park and hospital, is a big positive

14. No need to relocate 40+ downtown businesses, nor use eminent domain to take property owners private land.

If they went downtown, Utica would have five hospital districts, three abandoned. By staying at St. Luke's, a very active downtown neighborhood is not disrupted, Nor the 40 Plus Businesses

15. You can build-on, or construct a new hospital onto a operational hospital and or site!

Watch this video, this happens everyday around the world. Hospitals expand and do not prevent healthcare processes from stopping...

Also, in Syracuse they did not abandon an "old" hospital. No, they performed a very significant upgrade to a very old hospital...

16. The St. Luke's Campus appears to be more central to Utica-area population masses.

For three years those advocating that downtown was the "largest population center of Oneida County", have never given us a population density map. Why? Perhaps because the St. Luke's Campus appears to be MORE CENTRAL than downtown Utica, just take a look...

The populations of South Utica, New Hartford, Clinton, Whitesboro, and Clark Mills makes the St. Luke's Campus more central to more people.

17. Maybe you'd rather hear from an esteemed Utica doctor?

Okay, read this letter, Dr. Christopher Max Say That St. Luke's Is Better (PDF). Dr. Max offers seven reasons why and also suggests that Faxton could be a good option as well.

18. They say nano is coming, we'll need more Downtown Utica to develop and explore

Use St. Luke's so there's more to downtown; a larger downtown to attract, make more interesting, more buildings that make for greater opportunity - more small businesses, creative spaces, old buildings, streets and alleys to explore.

The creative class want good healthcare, but they also rank an interesting downtown as much more attractive, and important.


On top of all this, Downtown Utica is already rebuilding on its own. With Nano technology finally starting to create jobs, Utica needs to plan and build for the elements that people want in a city, as more and more are attracted to urban living.

Thus we remain #NoHospitalDowntown so we can protect a downtown that we love from being bulldozed.



No Studies, No Reports, thus we remain #NoHospitalDowntown