March 10, 2023 - Yet another Utica Hospital Study... this one comes eight years, four month since residents first heard words "new hospital": Mohawk Valley Health CEO: New Hospital 'Worth Exploring'...
Redeveloping St. Elizabeth Campus: What's planned for closing Utica hospital https://t.co/c7x8hedoL7— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) March 10, 2023
July 28, 2022 - With most (but not all) of their Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood demolition complete, track the Utica elite's increasingly expensive Utica Parking Garage saga.
Also on Facebook, a story titled As Upstate and Crouse secretly plan merger, hospitals aim to avoid federal oversight, as we predict Utica's Wynn Hospital will become a state own hospital, due to massive MVHS debt.
July 4, 2022 - Their urban renewal boondoggle continues erasing Downtown Utica's historic past...
Their #wynn #hospital destruction continues... demolished June 29, 2022, R.I.P. 442 Lafayette Street / 112 Fayette Street as Oneida County's @AJPicenteJr destroyed 187-years of Downtown @CityofUtica history in under five hours...https://t.co/i3qsuJxLMi pic.twitter.com/AjIkPqaYgZ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 4, 2022
Absolute shame they've destroyed Downtown Utica's Boiler-maker Past!
March 15, 2022 - We could not agree more! Thomas and Gorsuch Say Kelo Eminent Domain Ruling 'Was Wrong the Day It Was Decided' and 'Remains Wrong Today'. We are also reading, Economic Development, Eminent Domain and the Property Rights Movement.
March 9, 2022 - Ms. Darlene tells sad story of MVHS, but not the full story...
The number of Covid-19 patients has receded at St. Luke’s hospital, but leaders say they expect to stay in crisis mode for the foreseeable future because of persistent staff shortages and the end of pandemic-related support they've been using as a crutch.https://t.co/DmBr3gGZLY— Jimmy Vielkind (@JimmyVielkind) March 9, 2022
Download a copy, Lighter Covid-19 Caseload Brings Little Relief to One New York Hospital
.@joe_cerini & @BrettTruett requesting an appeal from @NYCourtsCOA #eminentdomain Working to save @CityofUtica / @Boilermaker15K history!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 25, 2022
Hey #WynnHospital help us celebrate boiler-making history for generations to come...https://t.co/BPkVxTxdYR pic.twitter.com/32sEgkGVJG
January 6, 2022 - Group update after six years and four months, listen to the interview on SoundCloud, Brett Truett & Jeremy Zogby discuss Legacy of Downtown Hospital Fight & Eminent Domain.
Group update after 6 years and 4 months… #NoHospitalDowntown #BetterUticaDowntown people vs. #politicians, @CityofUtica #protest #healthcare #downtown… #zogby https://t.co/FLIukjaqi9 pic.twitter.com/czbqdiOaKX— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 6, 2022
June 17, 2021 - Why destroy Utica's boiler-making history and heritage? Modify the large parking garage for The Wynn Hospital and see a Better Utica Downtown emerge.
June 15, 2021 - #TheWynnHospital parking garage has funding issues...
Oneida County is trying to enforce a non-binding memorandum that they've unilaterally changed (removing 500 parking spaces, adding a heliport) multiple times.— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) June 15, 2021
Good luck with that.https://t.co/dqXXDnfO15
June 9, 2021 - More planned funding for parking garage before land is owned...
The design will cover all the particulars of the garage, including such things as levels, outline and number of parking spots. https://t.co/xM4JYv8FP8— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) June 9, 2021
May 19, 2021 - News on Oneida County Eminent Domain Challenger...
Oneida County has received its first lawsuit over the use of eminent domain for a downtown @CityofUtica parking garage... https://t.co/8qu0m5QObw @AJPicenteJr responds #thewynnhospital #hospital #corruption #utica #cuomo— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 19, 2021
We're now tracking #TheWynnHospital saga.
May 16, 2021 - Another Legal challenge to the Downtown Utica Hospital Concept, this time their proposed Parking Garage- read the Challenge to Oneida County Eminent Domain.
January 23, 2021 - MVHS is constructing #thewynnhospital building without owning the project site. A reduced site plan was approved by the Utica Planning Board- without staff or visitor Parking! Eminent Domain is said to be split between Oneida County and City of Utica to try and obtain more land. Follow Better Utica Downtown as they try to save businesses and historic buildings. Oneida County states a public need to build a municipal parking garage for; the hospital, the AUD, the Nexus Center, and the City Courts (why don’t they name the Utica Police station?
October 22, 2020 - Oneida County Supreme Court Judge Clark renders her Decision & Order (PDF), read a Text version and our Legal page.
October 17, 2020 - Still waiting for justice...
In Oneida County, @CityofUtica, Supreme Court still no ruling on lawsuit against #mvhsdowntown by @MVHealthSystem, after 44 days and nearly 10 months after Albany Supreme Court ruled SEQR claims had merit... https://t.co/BRwP4XLQ85 Hey @larryrulison, another sad Utica story pic.twitter.com/mOyOVYMVQf— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 17, 2020
A 2014 promise of healthcare funding, 5-years and 10 monthh after first hearing "new hospital," area has zero improvements to Utica health care. SEQRA laws ignored and a downtown neigborhood Largely Erased (Video, via Facebook).
October 6, 2020 - Nine months, twelve days, waiting for justice...
We absolutely LOVE seeing actual healthcare news from @MVHealthSystem, but have complete contempt for the corrupt, political, and illegal #mvhsdowntown concept... https://t.co/mpsl6TKvM7 pic.twitter.com/iopjdhQ0KT— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 6, 2020
September 15, 2020 - Thirteen days since oral arguements "round two" and 320 since "round one", as we recall Three Hospital Comparables in MVHS's fraudently SEQR Review...
Let’s recall those three hospitals in @MVHealthSystem’s fraudulent SEQR Review... https://t.co/c5jIqih1Zk Only one was near comparable @CSX tracks, and still was a flawed comparison!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 16, 2020
As lawsuit outcome lingers... https://t.co/BRwP4XLQ85 pic.twitter.com/TZyQSxHsNK
None were comparable! Seems Utica will be the only city building their only hospital in a Evacuation Zone... what a very sad distinction!
September 8, 2020 - At least five places to build a Parking garage...
Will #mvhsdowntown ever be completed? Where will funding come from? Does #hospital truly require 3,000+ parking spaces? Will @MVHealthSystem go bankrupt? Where's helipad? One thing is absolutely true, eminent domain not required to for parking garage... https://t.co/OpjHoU5VG1 pic.twitter.com/rmPHMJ453i— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 8, 2020
Utica should pick historic Preservation, significant Erie Canal Heritage to protect.
September 1, 2020 - In today's mail a #NoospitalDowntown member hears again from the government...
Factually Inaccurate Letter... @CityofUtica residents know, as countless media reports prove- @AJPicenteJr’s Oneida County, @MayorPalmieri’s City of Utica, & @RepBrindisi’s NYS began their eminent domain process years ago... pic.twitter.com/jD8YTsAXNU— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 1, 2020
Which, when taken with past statements years ago, appears very strange...
Today’s News Flash: The @MVHealthSystem SEQR process for their #mvhsdowntown concept hasn’t even reached its conclusion, and yet look back at this hospital CEO’s statement... pic.twitter.com/zNZ08ZPLn5— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 1, 2020
Tomorrow, the first lawsuit that challenged MVHS's SEQR Review is to be heard in Oneida County Supreme Court. This Legal saga as been tracked.
August 22, 2020 - "They missed the memo..."
.@kimbbellard We believe @CityofUtica, @HealthNYGov & @NYGovCuomo should have read your article: https://t.co/pXIfaO5Unf Sadly corrupt politics sank our @MVHealthSystem hospitals deep into debt, $15M+/year until 2049! Our lawsuit hasn't stop this disaster: https://t.co/NOeXB30BkB— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 22, 2020
And everyone in Utica and Oneida County missed the study! Where is their study of Utica's hospital assets and system that determined a new hospital was necessary? Troubling, as Nobody Has Ever Seen One!
August 13, 2020 - The Utica-based judge takes a step in the "No Hospital Downtown case...
Lawsuit commenced 15 months ago against @CityofUtica’s Planning Board, @MVHealthSystem, and others not yet over...#utica #hospital #healthcare #corruption https://t.co/BRwP4XLQ85 pic.twitter.com/kE76HT7NE9— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 13, 2020
Will Judge Clark also be touring the St. Luke's Campus within Utica's current Oneida County Medical District?
July 24, 2020 - Finally, Oneida County Supreme Court has assigned a judge to our lawsuit, Read More... Yet it's criminal the Downtown Destruction they've wrought.
June 24, 2020 - Email update from attorney Tom West, see the #NoHospitalDowntown Legal page. And we have recently updated our "990" page with three 2018 IRS 990's of MVHS and Utica two Hospitals... FSLH and SEMC
Plus regular updates on Twitter...
Public Health + Economy = The Only Long Term Strategy https://t.co/nbAAL62zIZ— Melissa DeRosa (@melissadderosa) June 23, 2020
And our conversation continues on Facebook, as it has ever since August 22, 2015.
April 17, 2020 - MVHS and City of Utica go back on their word, do not allow an Albany ruling on the merits, no they continued shopping for a judge...
State Supreme Court in Oneida County to hear MVHS hospital lawsuit ...https://t.co/3o3lfoMMia pic.twitter.com/1GRTkp0AxJ— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) April 17, 2020
Get to know 5th JD - Oneida County County Supreme Court & Judges.
April 7, 2020 - Update on the lawsuit from Tom West, received at 3:20 PM today...
"I wanted to take this opportunity to bring you up to date on developments with the New York State Court system. Several weeks ago, the Chief Administrative Judge of the New York Courts issued an order suspending all filings and activities on non-essential matters due to the coronavirus pandemic. This case falls into that category. However, today, the Chief Administrative Judge issued a revised order urging Justices to move forward with rendering decisions on all matters that have been fully submitted. This would include your case. We are hopeful that this clears the way for Justice Mackey to finally render a decision concerning this matter."
More on the lawsuit on our Legal page.
March 24, 2020 - Read another investigation of MVHS's new hospital concept titled, Downtown Hospital Project to be Built Upon Lies. Where you'll read...
In one of Assemblyman Brindisi’s emails he said of the downtown location: "
The community's legal challenge awats a ruling on the merits in Albany Supreme Cuort.
March 22, 2020 - Governor Cuomo heralded for CONVID-19 stance, yet he wants to place Utica's only hospital beside downtown's CSX tracks? This while he warned and labeled tracks an Upstate danger?
Talking of density/proximity, why on earth is your concern for our safety/health not on display in @CityofUtica? NY #Governor #Cuomo (#PresidentCuomo ?) not long ago warned about @CSX tracks in Upstate communities, as he now does w/ virus, yet look at... #mvhsdowntown #hospital pic.twitter.com/fYiCHZIEGR— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 22, 2020
February 25, 2020 - In 2015 the $300M prize was intended to help reduce Oneida County's hospital costs by 25% over five years. To be accomplished by "...transition health care from emergency rooms to more efficient community-based care in neighborhood facilities." Sadly, and corruptly, all Utica has recieved is a flattened historical downtown neighborhood...
Speaking of pancakes, @MVHealthSystem flatten two historical blocks of downtown @CityofUtica when task was to transition health care from ER's to more efficient community-based care in neighborhood facilities #DSRIP The #mvhsdowntown concept would INCREASE non-emergency visits! pic.twitter.com/19OifP88wQ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 25, 2020
And their backwards #MVHSDOWNTOWN concept would only increase emergency room use!
February 16, 2020 - Last Friday fourteen documents (597 pages) were dropped on Albany Supreme Court by the Respondents-Defendants. We'll share them soon. Important to note, MVHS does not own the land for this hospital concept, and they intend to keep knocking down historical assets in Utica's downtown CoLa Nieghborhood.
In the meantime. read the MVHS/Onieda County Bond Offering [404 pages, 2.47 MB], or just Appendix A: MVHS Business Overview [98 pages, 4.58 MB]. MVHS sold bonds, read Oneida County-endoresed "Muni Bonds". MVHS reveals huge budget increases, plus read Oneida County Bonding: MVHS Debt & Other Notes.
Oddly, MVHS stated they'd save $15M to $17M per year with a single integrated facility. However, without a new hospital today, they've only acquired a $15M annual debt payment (starting in 2020 and running until 2049), and $52.7M has been wasted on plans for a new hospital - Utica's only acute care hospital - that would be in a CSX Railroad Red Zone!
February 10, 2020 - Legal update, 7 months and 16 days since MVHS CEO stated case would be quickly dismissed...
Last week “those who say #NoHospitalDowntown” vs. #mvhsdowntown received this legal update. More at: https://t.co/BRwP4XLQ85#HospitaOfCards pic.twitter.com/iu1IaxiT9k— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 10, 2020
Learn more at: Legal
February 7, 2020 - MVHS sent more documents to Albany Supreme Court on the 5th, we've responded; see our side's Legal Page.
Lawsuit challenging @MVHealthSystem's corrupt #SEQR Review and therefore @CityofUtica's corrupt Site Plan continues. Read documents stonewalling #Albany court as their #mvhsdowntown bulldozers continue destroying historical assets in the CoLa Neighborhood https://t.co/o296t22CJW pic.twitter.com/zZuR0gG6Xq— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 7, 2020
Visit our #NoHospitalDowntown Facebook page as we log video and photogrpahs of MVHS's illegal demolition of Downtown Utica's CoLa Neighborhood.
A tragedy when Utica is already home to Oneida County's largest Medical District.
January 23, 2020 - Albany Supreme Court Releases Schedule for upcoming motions and pleadings.
This follows our rejection of a "settlement" offer on Sunday... please see our #NoHospitalDowntown Legal page for more.
January 12, 2020 - Tomorrow may spell end of this property...
Tomorrow it seems @MVHealthSystem will destroy this historic - and "rock solid" - structure in downtown @CityofUtica, as hospital CEO relies on a faulty City Planning Board decision and fatally flawed SEQR. History shall judge @MayorPalmieri harshly... https://t.co/oPUNhWdJ6K pic.twitter.com/mzbjnlb0gI— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 13, 2020
Looking back Utica ignored the former owner... “This is the heart of Wilcor (International),” said Shawn Corrigan, head of the purchasing department for Wilcor International.
December 31, 2019 - Wishing New York journalists a Happy New Year...
Happy New Year @JimmyVielkind @jessemckinley & @J__Velasquez! New Utica hospital $300M via @NYS_DASNY is still MIA. Last week Albany Supreme ruled @MVHealthSystem's SEQR Review has valid legal challenges. We sure could use your keen journalism assistance. Is 2020 the year? https://t.co/VdiF6eK8vZ pic.twitter.com/gDiHLlLaJY— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 31, 2019
As we continue to wonder why this $300M in Funding was so "unique", a "special gift", one which no one seems to have the story on. However, many months ago an informant very clearly alluded to a Smoking Gun.
Utica, NY, December 27, 2019 - Albany Supreme Court Has Ruled, Claims Opposing MVHS SEQR Have Merit, Case To Advance Read Full Release...
Albany Supreme Court does NOT dismiss #SEQR lawsuit against @MVHealthSystem, merits of case opposing #mvhsdowntown are FINALLY set to move ahead... https://t.co/w4q4NuQJ2U pic.twitter.com/W3AFy115lR— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 26, 2019
Lots of history, buildings, streets, and memories yet to be saved! #NoHospitalDowntown!
December 12, 2019 - MVHS contractor, Hammes, publishes a press release, Hammes Company celebrates groundbreaking of Mohawk Valley Health System replacement hospital
An older press release from March 15, 2018, reads Hammes Company and Mohawk Valley Health System making strides toward new downtown hospital.
December 6, 2019 - Read an essay, "Death of Nobility in Oneida County", by Oneida County Historian Joseph P. Bottini, Continue Reading...
November 26, 2019 - As MVHS pushes forward on a Groundbreaking, our side submits a Letter to Judge Mackey.
November 21, 2019 - Today writer states, "New Hospital Building Not Solution..."
Dear @NYGovCuomo,— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 21, 2019
Rank-and-file residents of @MayorPalmieri’s @CityofUtica and @AJPicenteJr‘s Oneida County are well aware of @MVHealthSystem sham hospital concept. Witness today’s newspaper... pic.twitter.com/lCbe7B88Tl
And either way, the downtown hospital concept would Kill Street Grid, Downtown Utica Walkability. And tomorrow MVHS is scheduled to answer Albany Supreme Court Judge in our Lawsuit: #NoHospitalDowntown Vs. #MVHSDOWNTOWN.
November 9, 2019 - More voices say no, this one yesterday stated "... instead of being spent on an unnecessay hospital"...
In yesterday’s @uticaOD! The @MVHealthSystem’s inner-city hospital district concept #mvhsdowntown is labeled for what it is: #unnecessary— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 9, 2019
Destructive urban renewal, where “adaptive reuse”, “creative infill” and “historic preservation” belong.
S.O.S. Downtown Utica, NY pic.twitter.com/4VbVGdH3cp
The lawsuit continues as the other side requests more time. What will MVHS knockdown in their non-site controlled CoLa Neighborhood as they continue to ignore NYS's SEQRA laws?
October 19, 2019 - As we head to the capital, we'd love to share "our" vision for CoLa with the governor's staff...
Hey @RichAzzopardi, reading an old @nytimes story: https://t.co/VQekjtXCBb, you know; Todd Howe, @SUNYPolyInst, #LPCiminelli, #COR, #BuffaloBillion, etc.— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 19, 2019
Sounds a lot like @MVHealthSystem in @CityofUtica! We're in Albany Supreme 10/31, may we meet? Our only goal is saving CoLa! pic.twitter.com/U2dOXNxVTM
Bulldozers and wrecking balls, an acute care hospital with 3,000+ parked cars, is no way to develop/replace a historic downtown!
October 10, 2019 - Site not yet owned, MVHS now focuses on two-block area (7.3 acres) where hospital building is proposed...
HAPPENING NOW—Jersey walls are being placed in downtown Utica. They will perimeter the proposed hospital building footprint. There are some traffic issues associated with installation. Once walls and fencing are in, MVHS says building abatement will begin. #WUTR #WFXV pic.twitter.com/ow0VL3a5Dv— Ben Dennis (@broadcastben_) October 10, 2019
And today in lawsuit news...
Albany Supreme Court seeks input from @MVHealthSystem, as case against new Oneida County / Downtown Utica hospital #SEQR process has not been dismissed... pic.twitter.com/n3XHBWswYj— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 10, 2019
September 9, 2019 - Tonight, by Amy Neff Roth of the UticaOD, Local politicians speak to South Utica residents...
August 26, 2019 - MVHS CEO Darlene Stromstad cannot say It, so we will...
The President & CEO of @MVHealthSystem Darlene Stromstad cannot say this about the proposed @CityofUtica downtown hospital, so @BrettTruett will...https://t.co/AmhOU5EC0q#mvhsdowntown pic.twitter.com/PgFT4KGMMG— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 25, 2019
Learn more about Risks and Downtown Utica's Railroad Infrastructure.
August 18, 2019 - Critical healthcare assets, especially the city's only hospital, should be placed onto Higher Ground. Yesterday in Utica, Storm leaves some motorists stranded in Utica...
August 18, 2019
See drone Footage of Utica's August 17, 2019 Flood Waters, as media reports, New York State DOT to partner with City of Utica to prevent flooding on the arterial.
Per MVHS, and their SEQR documents, this roadway was projected to carry the Greatest Traffic Loads To And From Proposed Downtown Hospital site.
Also, since Utica is very near a floodplain, downtown carries additional Risks for our Downtown Utica CSX Railroad Tracks.
August 17, 2019 - News story on hospital funding picture titled, County economic development agency OK’s bond issue for MVHS hospital in Utica.
Every story about the bond issue for Utica's proposed downtown hospital has been burying the lede- the price has jumped from $480 million up to $600 million.— (((Jubal))) Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) August 19, 2019
That comes the same week NY's 2nd quarter budget update shows Medicaid cuts are likely.
We track the funding story, see the New Utica Hospital Funding Timeline.
July 28, 2019 - This past Friday a SINGLE media outlet told of a public viewing of the New Proposed Utica Downtown Hospital model. However, the model was removed after only a few hours. Why such limited hours and poor publicity? Maybe becuase it's a poor model, a deceptive model...
New proposed @CityofUtica hospital offers a model, but it’s their MODEL OF DECEPTION!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 28, 2019
Say NO to #mvhsdowntown & @MVHealthSystem! Say YES to Downtown Utica’s better plan at: https://t.co/Vu4pjvFmRa pic.twitter.com/VqpQbeXMM9
The lies of the MV500 ignore the critical historical assets of the CoLa Neighborhood. That's why we've joined a Lawsuit!
July 13, 2019 - Good Luck Runners!
A new hospital is looking to wipe-out an entire Downtown Utica Neighborhood and its the loaction where the Boilermaker Road Race Got Its Name!
If you see these Posters then you need to Read This. Please help, learn more...
July 2, 2019 - We're reading...
So many of our downtowns have a few blocks of old historic buildings that could easily become the most financially productive area in town if they just got a little love. So why is Utica, NY considering ripping down theirs down make way for a new hospital? https://t.co/rB3VcpNmL2— Strong Towns (@StrongTowns) July 2, 2019
Read: Sacrifice a Historic Downtown Neighborhood for a Hospital? There's a Better Option.
June 13, 2019 - A terribly sad story follows, one the community was told would not happen. Numerous community groups and governments stated they were going to make their new hospital concept smooth, but that was just another lie...
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I went down to the Salvation Army yesterday and spoke with workers there first hand.
All of them have lost their jobs. None have been transferred - not even managers. One gentleman had been working their for 25 years. He has no pension. He has no retirement fund. He planned to continue working their till he was physical unable to. He loved his job. His job put food on his table for his family. And his job was giving back to the community. Soon he will be unemployed in a saturated unemployment market of unskilled workers. Not ONE community organization reached out to them to help find them a job, offer them job training, or offer any assistance.
I am man enough to admit I left teary eyed in hearing their stories. Stories of heartbreak, stories that will never reach the ears of The Community Foundation (as they promised) or local leaders. Why? They do not care.
When they do engage in these communities it is merely tokenism. Remember that.
June 13, 2019 - Joe Bottini writes, "If Anyone Buys Into this Smoke Screen" Continue Reading...
June 4, 2019 - First a quick hint, Wilcor News Later Today, and then...
Wilcor International is moving out of the downtown Utica footprint of a proposed hospital. #WUTR #EyewitnessNews https://t.co/whvqlSKo19— Ben Dennis (@broadcastben_) June 4, 2019
May 14, 2019 - MVHS offers
Just The Facts, and #NoHospitalDowntown replies with Just The
May 9, 2019 - In the news today, #NoHospitalDowntown to sue Utica hospital project
Dear @MVHealthSystem @MayorPalmieri @NYS_DASNY @CityofUtica & @NYstateparks ... #NoHospitalDowntown is taking issue w/ #mvhsdowntown #SEQR process... https://t.co/G5RvdVA7Tg pic.twitter.com/bou6BnBZlB— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 9, 2019
Build the hospital where it belongs, within the current Oneida County Medical Dustrict at the St. Luke's Campus. The concept drawing was on hand in June of 2015, New St. Luke's Hiospital Concept (DEIS).
TalkFM 100.7: No Hospital Downtown Announces Lawsuit To Stop MVHS Hospital
WKTV2 (a): No Hospital Downtown Files Lawsuit Against MVHS Others In Albany
WKTV2 (b): No Hospital Downtown Files Lawsuit Against MVHS Others In Albany
WIBX 950: No Hospital Downtown Files Lawsuit Against MVHS Hospital Project
WUTR: 'No Hospital Downtown' Sues MVHS and Others
Utica Observer-Dispatch: UPDATE: #NoHospitalDowntown sues Utica hospital project
April 19, 2019 - Interview (Facebook Live) with #NoHospitalDowntown Cofounder Jim Brock on news that MVHS believes their SEQR process is complete.
April 16, 2019 - Never before released, the complete Downtown Hospital Interview With Common Council President, Michael Galime...
This will be helpful in our upcoming court battles, as for the 1,334th day (3.6 years!), we remain: #NoHospitalDowntown!
February 17, 2019 - We're investigating the Oneida County Legislature, why did they vote on this?
Oneida County legislators unanimously pass incorrectly worded resolution, their law department didn’t even know lead agency in @MVHealthSystem SEQR process. Disconnected? So what else don’t they know about #mvhsdowntown?https://t.co/fYEDLo34l0 pic.twitter.com/sUNTwACwz4— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 17, 2019
We believe they've been misled, so we'll be working to bring them up to speed.
February 12, 2019 - City of Utica Planning Board's SEQR DEIS response is now 22-days late...
So @CHAcompanies is studying St. Elizabeth campus in as part of #mvhsdowntown concept by @MVHealthSystem. What of St. Luke's? Our bet is that hospital is NOT closing. Meanwhile @CityofUtica SEQR DEIS response now 22-days late.... pic.twitter.com/PWyQN1oLxw— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 12, 2019
Next board meeting is Feb 21, 2019, no agenda posted yet. Meanwhile BUD is defining a better future for the historic CoLa Neighborhood.
January 15, 2019 - A potential Utica Observer-Dispatch headline...
Looking at possible future @MVHealthSystem-created @uticaOD headline out of downtown @CityofUtica... pic.twitter.com/QIfAmxZZIP— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 15, 2019
Following the growing history of Upstate Train Derailments. See a 10-year running list of Utica Observer-Dispatch Hospital Headlines, and from Governor Cuomo's microphone: News on Downtown Utica's Nexus Center, which renders the MVHS SEQR DEIS...
January 7, 2019 - Mr Robert Scholefield drafts letter to hospital staff, but forgets its 2019...
Just in from the field... NOTE: We have been told this letter is fresh, @MVHealthSystem’s Robert Scholefield just forgot that it’s 2019... pic.twitter.com/ApBq88xaDq— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 7, 2019
The new hospital talk became public on November 19, 2014, see Mohawk Valley Health CEO: New Hospital 'Worth Exploring', and we know insiders started talked much earlier. So it is hard to believe, "It remains too early to tell."
Consider, the C.O.N. has long been submitted, committing in excess of $8M to buy properties by MVHS, and a new hospital design "from inside out" (with architectural floor plans and outside renderings) complete! Yet it's still too earlier to be honest with the hospital staff?
January 4, 2019 - A welcome and an introduction...
#NoHospitalDowntown offers a very warm welcome to new @MVHealthSystem President & CEO, Ms. Darlene Stromstad. We’re looking forward to sitting down with you... https://t.co/nrklkcZMKF pic.twitter.com/BLizrLs66O— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 4, 2019
Place the $300M into the City of Utica's Oneida County Medical District!
December 26, 2018 - Does this interview build confidence that #MVHSDowntown was well thought-out? Have a listen, as Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente, Talks #MVHSDowntown Hospital & Parking...
Hear @AJPicenteJr discuss Oneida County & @CityofUtica developments, including; casino, #Nexus, healthcare & proposed @MVHealthSystem hospital concept called #mvhsdowntown https://t.co/0flK8TsYeb pic.twitter.com/Fn4dAXy79o— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 26, 2018
You'll also hear comments regarding; a Utica #Nexus Center, the Utica #AUD, and proposed Utica U-District.
December 10, 2018 - Officials deny rigging hospital site study, but who accused them?
Of course they would! Read today’s #mvhsdowntown story regarding @MVHealthSystem as #MVEDGE and @ABrindisiNY try to walk back their rigged project... https://t.co/HQ2Uf5Zu5S pic.twitter.com/Q3TP1B3n6y— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 10, 2018
Their emails make it pretty clear, Steve DiMeo and a few politicians (Brindisi & Picente) rigged hospital siting, no accusing required!
Plus, MVHS CEO Scott Perra already confirmed it in April of 2017, "Our Politicians Are The Ones, Mr Tony Picente, Anthony Brindisi and Mayor Palimeir...". This was repeated a few days later by MVHS COO Robert Scholefield, have a listen as Mr. Scholefield states, It Was Made Clear To Us...
November 20, 2018 - Folks are reading the latest and massive hospital SERQ DEIS document! Reveals new Risks beyond the Regular Upstate Train Derailments.
Seems their ill-conceived downtown hospital would have a shaky foundation, read Geotechnical Problems with Pyritic Rock and Soil....
Wondering why the presence of pyritic shale at the site of Utica's proposed downtown hospital is an issue? This is a good introduction. The combination of reactive expansion and acid leaching is particularly damaging to buildings using concrete piers.https://t.co/A8AlhuESoj— Jubal Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) November 20, 2018
Would their proposed "floating foundation" and no basement solve this?
November 15, 2018 - SEQR DEIS for the *proposed* downtown hospital...
Here we have it... SEQR for the *proposed* downtown hospital. Public hearing Dec 6. Comments due by Dec 27. Can't wait to read every last word. https://t.co/YsCJNZlCu0— Katie Martin (@katieaiello) November 15, 2018
Public hearing December 6th and comments due by December 27, you can explore it here: MVHS DEIS.
November 8, 2018 - Scott Perra exiting sooner Than Planned as new MVHS president/CEO announced...
MVHS names new president/CEO https://t.co/MwLahD7UDB— Observer-Dispatch (@uticaOD) November 8, 2018
Story reveals, incoming CEO... "Stromstad said she’ll be willing to sit down and talk to members of the group #NoHospitalDowntown who oppose the downtown location for the hospital." Wow, that sounds great!!
November 7, 2018 - Elected News' Luke Radel offers another Video...
New Video: Downtown @CityofUtica / @MVHealthSystem Hospital Miniseries: Episode 6 via #ElectedNews exclusive... https://t.co/9ni2TApet8 Politicians' #healthcare a #HospitalOfCards, mini @TurningStone parking? #EminentDomain #Corruption #mvhsdowntown #MVEDGE pic.twitter.com/DaXua8NudX— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 7, 2018
Why so much parking? What other city bulldozes historic buildings, streets, alleys, and businesses for surface Parking?
November 6, 2018 -
October 22, 2018 - Today in #MVHSdowntown Hospital Concept news, former Utica mayor Tim Julian and SEQR/SEQRA...
This is a great interview. The entire section involving Utica's downtown hospital project is golden, particularly the discussion of the net *loss* the city is facing.— Jubal Harshaw (@RaceforNY22) October 22, 2018
There's a reason the SEQR report has been pushed back until well after the election. Heh. https://t.co/DMdqhpOhqF
October 4, 2018 - A 12-year medical professional, and
The proposed Oneida County @MVHealthSystem hospital in @CityofUtica was nothing more than a VERY ignorant political strategy. Now a medical professional speaks out... https://t.co/iDMX9r2u3M pic.twitter.com/whuRqPYGnn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 4, 2018
Full story at Rome Sentinel. In case you missed it, so too had a very prominent Utica doctor, Christopher Max, MD, Denounces Downtown Hospital.
September 17, 2018 - Better Oneida County healthcare and a streamlined City of Utica hospital effort has become a political boondoggle. A city Democratic voter is calling it Brindisiemailgate...
A Democrat in @CityofUtica is VERY upset w/ @ABrindisiNY! Says "No!" to any mention of @BrindisiNY22, instead says, #WriteInHeath Learn more at: https://t.co/l9qEdvXCnm He's talk'in about @HAPhillips71 backstory at: https://t.co/JwR6HoN1C8 pic.twitter.com/1O9iFhDIhg— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 17, 2018
Now a #NoHospitalDowntown group member says, #WriteInHeath, DO NOT promote Brindisi to Congress, and starts a new Write-in Heath Phillips Facebook Group
September 14, 2018 - Rolling out our advertising wave number one, their concept is far from a "done deal". Is this Oneida County's, Utica's, Hospital of the Future?
Two weeks since COO Scholefield said they'd announce the bank for their $180M loan. Is it proving hard to insure a "red zone" hospital?
September 12, 2018 - We are encouraged by new words from Assemblyman Brindisi...
We’re excited to hear the new @ABrindisiNY / @BrindisiNY22, now please state your opposition to the destructive urban renewal @MVHealthSystem concept, code named #mvhsdowntown https://t.co/BgDbyiYuuQ pic.twitter.com/vffJvEtPaa— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 12, 2018
Historic preservation, and Downtown Utica, hear Assemblyman Brindisi's Own Words
A #NoHospitalDowntown member commits funds to oppose downtown hospital concept...
Today I’m adding to my support of @NoHospitalDwtn We’ll be making media noise over @MVHealthSystem’s proposed new @CityofUtica hospital code named #mvhsdowntown Destroying downtown, Oneida County healthcare, because of failed @MarcyNanocenter dreams? No thank you! pic.twitter.com/RLKYGKnQz0— Brett Truett (@BrettTruett) September 5, 2018
As we await overdue word on the $180M Mohawk Valley Health System Loan...
Twelve days and counting... is @MVHealthSystem fearfully to expose true “lending institution” as @NYGovCuomo’s taxpayers of New York State? Oneida County’s #HospitalOfCards #hospitalgate #mvhsdowntown pic.twitter.com/cMKXKq4nXX— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 12, 2018
August 25, 2018 -
They service our community health and provide jobs... just don’t ask them to activate the surrounding environment https://t.co/kynKkAP53j— TheUrbanPhoenix (@UrbanPhoenixBlg) August 24, 2018
You can read the exchange in the following link, as a tale of Real Estate Corruption Is Exposed. Shame multiplied many times over as individuals and politicians seeking financial gains, would place a regional hospital beside this... Investigate Upstate NY Train Derailments, how tragic!
August 16, 2018 - We've alerted our leaders, the media, and many others, and try one more time with the Utica Observer-Dispatch.
Dear @uticaOD, specifically Dave Dudajek, how can you turn a blind eye towards this (your front page)? You know @MVHealthSystem's downtown @CityofUtica concept? Asking @SenDaveValesky @ABrindisiNY @DickGottfried @HannonSenate @MayorPalmieri as well. Any comments anyone? pic.twitter.com/YEtZlE3dei— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 16, 2018
Use our guide to Investigate Upstate NY Train Derailments
July 27, 2018 - Last week, Brindisi states that his constituents can decide where new hospital is built...
We're terribly confused, can't understand difference between @ABrindisiNY in 2015 vs. @BrindisiNY22 2018. Brindisi did not want "public opinion" upending his @MVHealthSystem downtown @CityofUtica concept, but now states his constituents should decide location! #mvhshealthcast pic.twitter.com/Ew88JffkAi— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 27, 2018
This after "experts" and politicians in #emailgate and here in this video, told the hospital board money is only good downtown.
July 19, 2018 - Watch and discover, "
Episode 4: Oneida County or @CityofUtica hospital? Hear @RowJimmy1 vs. @ABrindisiNY w/ @RepTenney on @NYGovCuomo funding for @MVHealthSystem DOWNTOWN location... https://t.co/nEq5G5xPWs pic.twitter.com/sF7OvAdgFa— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 19, 2018
A single resident starts a Facebook Project to oppose the political decision after hearing from concerned doctors/board members. Group grows to over 4,000 and now, three years later, is this debacle almost over?
July 10, 2018 - Assemblyman Brindisi tries to explain the political temple called #MVHSDOWNTOWN and #Emailgate...
Elected News interviews @ABrindisiNY / @BrindisiNY22 over @MVHealthSystem and yours truly @NoHospitalDwtn See it here: https://t.co/ZmGsUiXY6B— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 10, 2018
Or read the Brindisi Interview Transcript. Soon we will create a version that offers the honest answers to the questions posed by Elected News.
July 6, 2018 - Welcome Boilermaker Runners and Fans! We offer a Boilermaker History Lesson, oh, did you hear our politicians want to bulldoze Downtown Utica?
Runners & @Boilermaker15K fans! Welcome to @CityofUtica for #Boilermaker15K weekend! Utica, home to great brands like @UticaBoilers @DunkirkECR @SaranacBrewery & GREAT HISTORY. We @NoHospitalDwtn offer a #Boilermaker history lesson... https://t.co/e0yhCcJ7Ga #MoreThanARace pic.twitter.com/cUZ8Q2Dxh8— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 6, 2018
June 25, 2018 - What happen to the senior leaders of Mohawk Valley Health System? The following interview does not help build a case for better healthcare...
Caitlin McCann, Marketing & Communications manager for @MVHealthSystem speaks about the #mvhsdowntown concept https://t.co/lkjXJbdLoD We believe more than ever, their downtown concept would be another #UrbanRenewal disaster for @CityofUtica— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 25, 2018
... nor for #mvhsdowntown's chances for developing downtown. In fact, their Hospital Concept would do both terrible and irreparable harm to downtown. Which would be a tragedy, as we
June 19, 2018 - We know Politicians placed the new hospital concept into Downtown Utica. We also have evidence suggesting State funding wasn't intended for a "NEW" hospital. To make matters even worse, the concept as proposed is located in a Federal Evacuation Zone...
The @CityofUtica seeks to bulldoze its downtown for an inner-city hospital district, @HealthNYGov & @NYGovCuomo agree w/ @ABrindisiNY RED ZONE @CSX hospital solution... pic.twitter.com/9j9ziv2GaP— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 19, 2018
Thus, can we have any confidence that their New Oneida County Hospital concept is what our regional healthcare requires? No, we can not! Especially after reading, "We should be investing in people and processes, not hospitals", says David Feinberg, president and chief executive of Geisinger Health System. [Ref: PDF]
June 10, 2018 - Today the #SharpeHollister2018 team, Larry Sharpe and Andrew Hollister, passed through the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood. They seek seats of Governor and Lieutenant Governor and stated, "Eminent Domain is Theft"...
Thank you @LarrySharpe & @achollister for visiting downtown @CityofUtica to speak out against #EminentDomain for the @MVHealthSystem hospital concept. Miss event? Video at: https://t.co/RhfFa9hmyg pic.twitter.com/FtYqVp1D5Z— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 10, 2018
Learn more about #SharpeHollister2018, and track the SEQR Process that the Perverse MVHS Hospital Concept is moving through.
June 5, 2018 - City of Utica finally offers first "Public Input" session, almost three years after headlines started swirling about a new Oneida County hospital! If you're still reading, part of the few who have not already tuned it out, please consider this...
#NoHospitalDowntown is working on an official response for SEQR public input. For those wishing to assemble outside, please attend rally in front of the State Office building, NO ID REQUIRED! Info here: https://t.co/A2aMQFr03O pic.twitter.com/D4beX3AqTj— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 5, 2018
Link to indicate your interest in attending: Pre-SEQR Rally, or just stop by at 4:45 this Thursday. For directions and map, please click this link: 207 Genesee Street, Utica, NY 13501!
June 3, 2018 - Who came up with the idea for the Utica newspaper to dive into the Hospital Debate? Do they truly believe they are able to add a neutral perspective?
Up for @uticaOD interrogation? Sign-up at https://t.co/9PUyiWwGDo Have your knowledge tested regarding 2+ years of brainwashing at hands of @MVHealthSystem @AJPicenteJr @ABrindisiNY @MayorPalmieri @foundationhoc @UticaChamber @MoValleyGenesis @CityofUtica @HealthNYGov @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/IK8FCSabsL— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 3, 2018
Today it is reported that "MergerWatch" calls for more Public Input On Hospital C.O.N. Applications, meanwhile MVHS CEO Scott Perra Responds. For other reporting, see videos from a high school freshman at Elected News: Downtown Utica Hospital Miniseries - Episode 1
May 28, 2018 - Happy Memorial Day from 442 Lafayette Street...
Happy Memorial Day to our supporters & opposition! This Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood should be preserved... pic.twitter.com/IyDbmnYCKl— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 28, 2018
You may learn much more about this property's neighborhood and history here, Spotlight on a Landmark: History of 442 Lafayette Street, first written by
Meanwhile, on May 23, 2018 the NYS DEC listed: ENB - Region 6 Notices, Positive Declaration and Public Scoping (Oneida County).
It was stated, "The City of Utica Planning Board, as lead agency, has determined that the proposed Mohawk Valley Health System (MVHS) Integrated Health Campus may have a significant adverse impact on the environment and a Draft Environmental Impact Statement must be prepared. The time and location of the public scoping session is to be determined."
May 18, 2018 - We are a bit behind, but this April 30th Radio Interview explains very well our position on the MVHS proposal...
April 30, 2018 Radio Interview on @WKAL1450 with @RowJimmy1 of @NoHospitalDwtn and Mike Bosak of @UticaLandmarks discussing the #mvhsdowntown concept put forth by @MVHealthSystem listen here https://t.co/Kxy2mLoqfN pic.twitter.com/H4JwtEgu3N— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 19, 2018
Mentioned in the interview, thanks again to all who attended a special event, featuring James Howard Kunstler. Event was open to all,
May 15, 2018 - Letter supporting the #NoHospitalDowntown position by a Utica resident and architect Patrica J. Knobloch...
Dear @NYGovCuomo @TeamCuomo @RichAzzopardi @melissadderosa @MayorPalmieri @ABrindisiNY @SenGriffo the people are only becoming more upset! They’re saying #NoHospitalDowntown but you’re ignoring them! Hundreds more at https://t.co/sWIq99N5Oj pic.twitter.com/Sm7un6UiHq— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 15, 2018
This letter is just one of our many Voices. Meanwhile the "Yes People" are making fact-less, feel good, video ads, and we saw a rare "letter to the editor" as well. However, the letter and videos offer the same, worn out, talking points that cannot be substantiated. Last month twenty Yes Businesses appeared. That's where the Letter Writer and one Video Star came from. These actions do nothing to offset the 60% of property owners not selling their Parcels.
May 9, 2018 - "Open Letter to Mr. Scholefield", by Joseph P. Bottini, Oneida County Historian: "Mr. Scholefield, you said, 'with the primary mission of delivering state-of-the-art healthcare to our region...' Continue Reading
April 29, 2018 - This week offers another special event, please attend and offer your RSVP To Continue The Downtown Utica Conversation...
This week: #NoHospitalDowntown continues the downtown @CityofUtica conversation regarding the ill-conceived @MVHealthSystem hospital concept, as we welcome noted author @Jhkunstler pic.twitter.com/js0CBj83vj— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 29, 2018
Map your way to the Fort Schuyler Club in Downtown Utica.
April 25, 2018 - Finally a critical, investigative eye, looks into the Oneida County hospital saga. Please meet a young man from New Hartford, founder (Producer, Editor, & Host) of "Elected News", Mr. Luke P Radel: Episode 1, Episode 2, and...
I liked a @YouTube video https://t.co/S8PBdxwF39 Downtown Utica Hospital Miniseries: Episode 3 (Stubborn Sellers) | Elected News— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 27, 2018
Also from Elected News on April 17, 2018, FULL INTERVIEW with Jim Brock, Founder with #NoHospitalDowntown
April 12, 2018 - Pure politics - NOT healthcare - continue to drive the "Urban Renewal Hospital" bulldozers forward. This as
MVHS receives certificate of need for downtown hospital, in spite of so many missing pieces and a TOTALLY broken process. However, without their "Forced CON" - and the "promise" of $300M - the Tiny MVHS Hospital Admin Group was sliding towards bankruptcy
We've waited years, but now all we need are those eminent domain letters, then watch their #HospitalOfCards begin to...
April 11, 2018 - Excellent news! Finally we know, Eminent domain settled for new Utica hospital. Now the #NoHospitalDowntown story can become a larger state and national story, as the more than three-year old "Politician's Urban Renewal Hospital" will face the scrutiny it so deserves.
Additional coverage of this news; WIBX, WKTV... and catch ten years of Utica related Hospital Stories Via The Observer-Dispatch.
April 6, 2018 - Download this (355 MB) PDF, and read the MVHS Certificate Of Need (CON); 600+ pages of information costing the hospital over $2M- just in the application fees alone! That cost is on top of $8M in vendor expenses to date. Sad only a few people made the location decision (read "politicians") and they've fully ignored the many Citizens Opposing The Downtown Location.
Much of the development work is portable and much expense can be avoided, simply Move The Downtown Hospital Concept To St. Luke's!
March 29, 2018 - The local Utica newspaper runs a bunch of hospital articles in a reporting spurt. However, we at #NoHospitalDowntown see gaps in their reporting and can only speculate - too little investigative reporting - and too much reliance on MVHS and their
Our premise remains, Downtown Utica Is Better without a huge hospital district that would wipe-away small businesses, historic buildings, and a neighborhood that holds great promise for becoming a vibrant and integrating section of downtown. Read the Many Who Agree with our message, "
March 23, 2018 - The vast majority of property owners have no interest in selling. So as hospital administration, and government leaders, turn their backs on residents the community's mood will only continue to disintegrate...
As @MVHealthSystem pushes forward without public support, the public’s contempt grows... pic.twitter.com/iz848PFUKG— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 24, 2018
Meanwhile another supporter wants this message to be seen, A New Downtown Utica, #Skyline. This follows a radio show where the host Advocates Violence... While Discussing Topic Of Bullying! ... at minute 11:50.
March 22, 2018 - Today's the big C.O.N. meeting by the New York State Public Health & Health Planning Council...
Have no fear, C.O.N. news (what an appropriate ring!) and HUGE public relations push in offing... please prepare for the downtown @CityofUtica hospital lipstick brigade... pic.twitter.com/nPfTp13Qjl— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 22, 2018
Please take a seat, years of courtrooms and politics ahead.
* * * * PM Updated * * * * contingent approval for MVHS’s construction application, but the facts remain:
1) NO SITE CONTROL
2) NO C.O.N.
3) NO SEQR PROCESS TRULY STARTED
4) NO BANK COMMITMENT FOR MVHS’s $150M
5) NO $300M FROM NYS GRANT
6) VIRTUALLY ZERO COMMUNITY SUPPORT
Are the politicians working back channels to get partial funding? This game of charades must have Mohawk Valley Health System near bankruptcy.
March 19, 2018 - On heels of news that 95% of property owners DID NOT sign their MVHS Offer Agreements, a new business #enterprise moves closer to opening in footprint of the MVHS hospital concept...
Congratulations @Enterprise upon moving closer to @CityofUtica opening, ribbon cutting just ahead! R.I.P. @MVHealthSystem / #mvhsdowntown concept, upon this, plus news of 95% of property owners saying- "No Hospital Downtown!", catch that here https://t.co/lQeJQO7xSj pic.twitter.com/pTB6GeB233— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 20, 2018
As we have said, the new hospital should be placed at St. Luke's! There are 64-acres there, and downtown's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood will be just fine!
March 17, 2018 - Two days ago on March 15, 95% of property owners said no to a downtown hospital. Not to be deterred the political "Yes People" released a statement yesterday containing nothing but very old news; Read / Listen Here. Why? Just the Rome paper reporting? We're talking about this Here
While the Rome paper printed old news, the Utica Observer-Dispatch printed true news, MVHS ending outpatient surgery at Faxton Campus, which followed this news, Health system moving outpatient medical imaging services . Between MVHS closing and laying off staff, and property owners not selling, one can understand why the old news about the unpopular downtown concept was republished.
March 16, 2018 -
39 offers sent out by @MVHealthSystem, only 2 signed... https://t.co/lQeJQO7xSj A 95% rejection rate, 95% of property owners saying... #NoHospitalDowntown / R.I.P. #mvhsdowntown !!! pic.twitter.com/0MAU6U1FfL— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 16, 2018
For a quick translation, please Click Here!
March 14, 2018 - Is MVHS seeking funds for Healthcare
Funding Oneida County / @CityofUtica health, or destructive Downtown #UrbanRenewal? Where does one's wealth help #healthcare most, does Mr. Forbe's know... https://t.co/MoKzcugKeR Asking the questions and answering here! https://t.co/3QAuLT8QQs #philanthropy #WealthManagement pic.twitter.com/SzK3mYue5K— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 14, 2018
From all indications, MVHS's operations must be seeking cash too, Assets Are Plummeting and this, MVHS Selling Recently Purchased Healthcare Operations. As we've look at this fiasco for three years, we know Mr. Forbes will need the skills he learned in #Theater, #HamiltonCollege
March 13, 2018 - Utica hospital history, today's concept nothing like the past...
A History of Hospitals in Utica: “The question is, are you bureaucrats listening?” Read it here https://t.co/RIFEp3ixZ7 pic.twitter.com/OF6B4vBGkE— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 13, 2018
March 12, 2018 - In the news, opposition to Utica's downtown hospital concept...
"I will be enemy number one because I think this is wrong." Founder of @NoHospitalDwtn buys vacant building within footprint of new #Utica hospital. More: https://t.co/yMZnEXkcpo— WRVO News (@WRVOnews) March 12, 2018
Our prediction for this week's MVHS "press effort" is posted here Marching onward, later this week, MVHS will...
March 11, 2018 - For well over two years the Mohawk Valley Health System has heavily promoted a huge real estate concept for land they do not own, on property Occupied By 40 Businesses on 80 Different Downtown Utica Parcels.
Essentially MVHS has been attempting to brainwash Oneida County residents with a...
For two years @MVHealthSystem heavily promoted a huge hospital concept for downtown @CityofUtica without owning the land... pic.twitter.com/nEyHA104hu— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 11, 2018
Marching onward, later this week, MVHS will; 1) release One More Business from their proposed "Hospital Footprint", 2) they'll announce that the Utica Paint Building will be saved and restored, 3) state that "MVHS is listening and working with the community", and 4) their "Once in a lifetime concept is gaining traction."
Will our predictions prove correct? Time will tell as March 15th quickly approaches; According to an email from MVHS, the purchase option agreement has been extended to March 15.
In reality their downtown hospital concept continues to fail, on many levels, and their brainwashing techniques will continue.
March 4, 2018 - In Utica City Hall, a Planning Board meeting changed its format and plenty of people took notice (more on that later). However it took the hospital debate into a new phase, and today the newspaper responds...
Today @uticaOD comments on @MVHealthSystem Downtown @CityofUtica hospital debate. References @WSJ article at https://t.co/laXEctDugf Our group, numbering 3,100+, discusses it here https://t.co/uT8M3VAzgT We're not against new hospital, just the location! pic.twitter.com/X1rqdebony— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 4, 2018
What is a bully? Who was the first bully, and what are the stories behind the faces? We will lay it all out at Faces of "Yes", "No", and all the others
February 22, 2018 - We are tracking the implications and greater risk of Moving Oneida County's new hospital within 2,000 feet of the CSX railroad tracks in Downtown Utica
Increased risk to Oneida County hospital population if built in Downtown Utica https://t.co/HMEHc3c5WY it's a "RED ZONE"!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 22, 2018
Why place a critical community asset into an area of greater risk? "It's a small risk", or "A derailment will never happen"...
But this could never happen in Downtown Utica, never threaten a @MVHealthSystem hospital... but oh wait, their the very same tracks https://t.co/QGarbZWPBO Mr. @ABrindisiNY would exterior of hospital, windows, be explosion proof?— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 16, 2018
Too many reasons not to move a huge hospital into a small Downtown Utica, and many great reasons to Build IT at St. Luke's!
February 17, 2018 - Last night someone placed threatening posts on our Facebook Group page. We issued a statement as soon as we were made aware, see this Tweet and below. Tonight one Local Media Is Covering the story, and you may join our conversation Here.
ICYMI regarding the yes vs. no @MVHealthSystem hospital concept debate raging in @CityofUtica, Oneida & Herkimer Counties... https://t.co/YAn36Mn8VY pic.twitter.com/nPbISQ2Usu— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 17, 2018
The Downtown Utica hospital story has always had a dark underside. Perhaps now the truths of Their Downtown Hospital Concept will come to light? As a result, the $300 million grant will be properly applied to healthcare improvements on the property that Mohawk Valley Health System owns today, without destroying a Downtown Utica Neighborhood!
We are tracking coverage of this story, read City of Utica Planning Board & MVHS's SEQR Review as the Utica Observer-Dispatch does as well. A serious matter so we will add additional information as and if it develops.
February 14, 2018 -
Last year Oneida County’s economic development head Steve DiMeo, president of MVEDGE, tried to prevent business expansion in @MVHealthSystem Downtown Utica footprint. Today we see he failed... #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/cT2yfqYrkk— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 14, 2018
We don't see a downtown hospital in our future! Downtown has been on the right Comeback Trail For Years! Sad that better regional healthcare, our $300M investment, has been derailed and postponed by political quests.
February 10, 2018 - Last year MV EDGE president, Steve DiMeo offered Warning To City: No Garage, No New Hospital. Taxpayers then learned about a secret meeting, then a "M.O.U." turned into a "M.O.A.", as #NoHospitalDowntown tracked the M.O.U. / M.O.A. Headlines.
Eventually the Oneida County Executive and City of Utica Mayor signed an agreement. However today we learn the mayor had no authority to place taxpayers into this debt: Palmieri-Picente-MVHS Downtown Utica Hospital Parking Garage Deal Is Meaningless
Common Council @CityofUtica President @mikeforutica on radio https://t.co/u85feIPw3y (Minute 2:30) reveals @MayorPalmieri MOU/MOA w/ Oneida County @AJPicenteJr for @MVHealthSystem downtown hospital parking garage is meaningless! Further confirming it’s a #HospitalOfCards pic.twitter.com/mo3oFMmQYR— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 10, 2018
This means Mohawk Valley Health System's request for a Downtown "Certificate of Need" (C.O.N.) is severvely impaired. Now their financial model is even more tenuous, but taxpayers can cheer along with #NoHospitalDowntown. Happy as we've always known this was a #HospitalOfCards.
January 25, 2018 - Utica, Oneida County,
Have No Plan! After three years, our region's $300M "Oneida County Healthcare Facility Transformation" is a
Nobody on “the @NYGovCuomo new hospital for @CityofUtica transformation” team has plan https://t.co/nEiHWMKTiZ the perverse MVEDGE economic development concept holds healthcare improvements for Oneida County in suspense - for three years! #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/BkZ6HguIjt— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 25, 2018
The Responsible Parties tried mixing failed and outdated urban renewal policies with healthcare, betting on endless buckets of Albany's economic development funding.
January 24, 2018 - Unclear At Highest Levels: Who'd Be Responsible For Initiating/Pursuing Eminent Domain? Who would take-up proceedings against numerous property owners unwilling to sell?
Highest levels @MVHealthSystem have no idea who'd bring #EminentDomain against numerous unwilling property owners in downtown @CityofUtica hospital sagahttps://t.co/u6hbQv2AR1 pic.twitter.com/8WniHVbnq5— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 24, 2018
Three years, and the $300,000,000 Oneida County Healthcare Facility Transformation remains only a concept, never-ever had a true plan.
January 23, 2018 - Utica College eyes Dorm Expansion, making way for new hospital at the 64-acre St. Luke's Campus...
Excited to see changes @uticacollege making way for new @MVHealthSystem hospital at St. Luke’s! https://t.co/DiTwtVZ0et Thankfully Albany, @NYGovCuomo @HealthNYGov @RichAzzopardi @DickGottfried @SenatorYoung know what Oneida County #healthcare requires! pic.twitter.com/EtkzltORoS— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 23, 2018
January 21, 2018 - Three years ago backers of a downtown hospital concept painted this part of the City of Utica as "crushing blight", and "functionally obsolete". Only today do we learn there are five nonprofits among the 40+ businesses in the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood...
Senseless urban renewal, mayor of @CityofUtica gutting his downtown of businesses, an entire neighborhood!! https://t.co/sU7HV6mQH4 pic.twitter.com/cYytv8wn6A— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 21, 2018
What city mayor (#Palmieri), what state governor (#Cuomo), sits by as 1960's and 1970's decends onto an urban neighborhood?
Don't worry private businesses, private land ownership and voters are working to turn back the wicked hospital concept. Then we'll get onto the court systems, and perhaps by then MVHS will be entering bankruptcy...
4 Nonprofits, Private business construction, 3K+ voices & Lawsuits! https://t.co/x3sipyrsWT facing @MVHealthSystem pic.twitter.com/bI3wXNS3Vi— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 21, 2018
Need more clues? See these people speaking-out over the downtown hospital concept
January 17, 2018 - Thank you for posting #NoHospitalDowntown Member, Mr. Joseph Peter Drennan...
Kudos to @SPECNewsCNY for reporting on public officials endeavoring to raze charity facility in Downtown #Utica providing food assistance to Utica’s poor, to make way for “Serenity Park” or a parking lot.#NoHospitalDowntown https://t.co/lVInNl3mUx— Joseph Peter Drennan (@josephdrennan) January 17, 2018
We know others that will join the eminent domain battle as well!
January 13, 2018 - We've found so much! It's exciting to have many sets of eyes corroborating the evidence. While not terrible important, we'd like to thank Governor Cuomo for being cautious!
Dear @NYGovCuomo we think you are very wise! #cautious @CityofUtica / Oneida County doesn't want Downtown @MVHealthSystem hospital concept! Had VERY solid case before, now its #bulletproof #emailgate pic.twitter.com/QbeAdbCiUB— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 13, 2018
We believe leaders within Oneida County failed as public servants, and that our Opportunity to improve regional healthcare with $300M has been a debacle. Yes, Oneida County's email dump was very helpful, but we'll surly be testing the withholding of information and their shield of relevance. Please stay tuned to Mohawk Valley Health System's #Emailgate
January 11, 2018 - Read the Michael Vass' article, Backroom wheeling and dealing in Utica may affect NY-22 and other elections...
"It was from January 2015 through September 2015, according to documents provided under FOIA regulations [see below attachment] to No Downtown Hospital and given to M V Consulting, that Oneida County Executive Anthony Picente, Assemblyman Anthony Brindisi, Mowhawk Valley EDGE president Steven Dimeo, Scott Perra president of Mowhawk Valley Health System, and others began to orchestrate their actions. Of note is the fact that planning took place via private emails and in person meetings – which while not illegal is seen as a grey area, denying the public transparency and awareness of what was taking place."
January 10, 2018 - Looking at emails obtained by way of FOIL...
Customary in media to coach politicians prior "live" broadcasts? For example @WKTV to @AJPicenteJr when discussing @MVHealthSystem and clip from @RowJimmy1 of #NoHospitalDowntown Hello: @WIBXnews @_talkfm @WRVOnews @PayneRHorning @ipostnews pic.twitter.com/QhHzScYTaz— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 10, 2018
In tweet above, should read "prior to", oh well. Please join our conversation on this at #NoHospitalDowntown.
January 9, 2018 - Three voices in today's Utica Observer-Dispatch, our favorite...
Dear @NYGovCuomo @NYSComptroller @SenatorYoung & @HealthNYGov Oneida County / @CityofUtica residents do NOT want a downtown hospital!! pic.twitter.com/ss7Mlmet1g— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 9, 2018
Read, view, and hear Many More Voices. Look for our forthcoming newspaper, the Mohawk Valley Healthcare Herald. Sign the petition too, Place New Hospital At St Luke's!
January 7, 2018 - Did the Utica Observer-Dispatch do any of their own research on Elmhurst Memorial Hospital? This is actually old news and seems a hospital PR piece...
Dear @OD_Roth & @OD_Mason take note, #NoHospitalDowntown looked at this hospital too: https://t.co/ckRDqDXQYe Please look closely at all @MVHealthSystem benchmarks, as the @CityofUtica Politicians' Hospital stumbles forward... pic.twitter.com/8UFXz38YqR— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 7, 2018
Today's paper offers a story, Utica Hospital Project Draws Inspiration From Other Hospitals. First, we would like to state that we're very glad that MVHS looked at other hospitals, and not shopping malls, or paper mills, or jails! Our group started Investigating Elmhurst Memorial when it was first mentioned in a MVHS News Release On June 27, 2017.
We'd like to mention that all the modern hospital attributes highlighted would work equally as well - even better - at the 64-acre St. Luke's Campus. And looking further at the newspaper's Gallery Of Hospitals today, it is easy to spot things like; a Starbucks cafe, their restaurant-like cafeteria, a Walgreen's drugstore and other amenities that would keep people "inside" the hospital! That's inside - and NOT - walking the hospital's vast parking lots, to try and visit the parts of Downtown Utica which would have not been Bulldozed!
Join the conversation on Facebook #NoHospitalDowntown
January 4, 2018 - The Utica Observer-Dispatch helps us add to our investigation of St Josephs In Syracuse. Sadly the newspaper misleads the Utica-region with this planted Guest View, where a New-to-Upstate CEO spins a disingenuous tale of his hospital's impact on the surrounding Syracuse neighborhood. We're talking about it here on Facebook. Please Sign Our Petiton(s).
December 29, 2017 - Watch the Landmarks' Press Conference and a follow-up on the radio...
Michael Bosak, Vice President of the Landmarks Society of Greater Utica in studio as our last guest of 2017 - here to talk about the proposed downtown hospital's overlap of the potential historic designation of downtown Utica. pic.twitter.com/B1KqucSJou— TALK! 100.7 FM (@_talkfm) December 29, 2017
Downtown is no place for this vital and large-scale non-profit institution, place it at St. Luke's!
December 11, 2017 - Utica area residents do not want a hospital in downtown! The reasons vary, but Ray Jadwick Spells It Out Here and the Greater Utica Landmarks Society's Jay Groah Offers A Video Message.
The writing is on the wall! How long will @MVHealthSystem "yes people" ignore it? Fact they bought into it suggests they'll need considerable time... pic.twitter.com/2SHDP4MBpW— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 13, 2017
December 10, 2017 - Read today's statement by Ray Jadwick, Before It Is Too Late.
The people of Oneida County & @CityofUtica are rising up! https://t.co/gtIqLYU4Ph Soon the @MVHealthSystem Downtown Utica hospital concept, disingenuously supported by @UticaChamber @foundationhoc @MoValleyGenesis & MVEDGE will collapse - Utica's #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/y6GPOG8YCU— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 10, 2017
The people and organizations lining-up to create, push this, are facing a future that looks like this...
December 8, 2017 - Slowly outside media is catching the true sense of the hospital story Downtown Utica hospital forum displays deep division over the project.
What did they expect? Politicians, their friends, cooked-up scheme to parlay $300M in debt https://t.co/k3noTF1EQC pic.twitter.com/0Utn7y78kE— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 8, 2017
Anyone that looks at Oneida County's, Utica's, options (without any "political obstruction"), would clearly see that Downtown Utica Is Wrong For A Hospital - and that the St Luke's Campus is Ideal!
December 2, 2017 - Political forces held sway over Utica-area media (read, "advertising dollars"), and community groups (read, "elite board members"), however the real truth is unfolding, as Architect & Civic Leader Mike Bosak Makes The Case Against Building the Hospital Downtown.
In @CityofUtica is it still the 1960's? #SinCity shadows the likes of @AJPicenteJr @MVHealthSystem @NBBJDesign pic.twitter.com/2Xk5NRe6Jq— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 1, 2017
Join the growing ranks of #NoHospitalDowntown on Facebook. We'll keep adding more members as the truth breaks through. For example, in today's newspaper: Downtown Not Right Place For Hospital.
November 27, 2017 - #CorruptionDisruption Our area hospitals were merging, preparing for the future, but now it's a new Downtown Utica hospital. How did we arrive here? What events and what players have had their hands in the concept? Has Corruption Landed In The Utica Healthcare System?
Planners for the Oneida County Hospital concept cropped their 15 minute walking radius, forgot CSX tracks under 2,000 feet away. Consider: https://t.co/kfaRMDiQFt & https://t.co/34AUzJJOU5 pic.twitter.com/Y6ee0OMyQs— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 28, 2017
Seeking more coverage? We have more: watch #NHD TV, listen #NHD Radio, and last - but certainly not least - is #NHD Legal.
November 16, 2017 - Worse than one could have imagined! An entire neighborhood, a huge part of Downtown Utica, bulldozed for a sea of parking and huge nonprofit "medical box"; only something that would become "something to walk around". Just look at the urban renewal destruction: Gallery: Downtown Hospital Designs
Hi @StrongTowns @clmarohn @UrbanThree @JoeUrbanThree - @MVHealthSystem's architects @NBBJDesign are ready for input pic.twitter.com/oSGHwn5L9O— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 16, 2017
We've been tracking the MVHS Utica Concept. They've proposed a concept for an Inner-city Hospital District, Surrounded By A Sea Of Parking, senseless urban renewal. Can you believe that NBBJ Healthcare Proposes Hospital Close to Hazardous CSX Railroad Tracks?
November 15, 2017 - Utica is facing "Hospital Sprawl", not a transformation, Read More...
November 11, 2017 - Those who are saying "Yes" to the destructive downtown hospital concept have asked us for our plans. What do we see for downtown? Well we have plenty of ideas and we support a new hospital, but where it belongs. At the same time we also advocate for small-scale healthcare solutions (urgent and primary care) for downtown Utica.
"Massive" you are delusional! Let the truth be told; small scale redevelopment and marketing @DowntownUtica to urban dwellers, tourists, shop owners, these are steps everyone will embrace and proudly stamp: @MadeInUtica pic.twitter.com/3U9TatITWB— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 11, 2017
As soon as we kill their ill-conceived downtown hospital concept in this C.O.N. Application, we are ready and prepared to work for a Better Downtown Utica.
November 8, 2017 - The #NoHospitalDowntown Grassroots Effort and "NoHospital Dwtn" political movement are two different things. Candidates who ran, those that signed our pledge, and the one candidate on the party line, all created much attention and change. Utica's Common Council which was (8) Democrats and (2) Republicans not long ago, now consists of (5) Democrats and (5) Republicans. It is not easy to run for office, we appreciate those that tried. Perhaps we will see them in another election cycle before this downtown hospital fiasco ends?
We've not forgotten you! The hospital in Downtown Utica will be defeated, wind on many fronts is at our backs. Not to mention, "YES people" still have not sent a list of urban hospitals that have revitalized downtowns #StillWaiting https://t.co/W2HxVb7xhp— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 8, 2017
The hospital owns no land in downtown, they cannot simply buy and close off our streets. This battle continues and many, many, more people know what is going on. Politicians are working overtime to create the "Appearance Of Community Support" (we're tracking it all and cataloging it), but these effort are weak, even weaker than their very weak downtown hospital concept.
We will be present at City Hall and we will either see new healthcare investment(s) outside of downtown or maybe the $300 million goes away? Much time has been wasted, many facts and details never explained. If the ill-conceived push for downtown wasn't started or if it was fully and honestly vetted to the public, we believe healthcare construction may have already been underway at the MVHS's 64-acre St. Luke's Campus.
November 2, 2017 - Another sad story as Downtown Utica's Central Business District unravels, Mass exodus - thanks to Mohawk Valley Health System, Oneida County Executive Picente, Utica Mayor Palmieri, the Community Foundation, and Genesis Group. All for a Hospital that we will stop from bulldozing 2/3 of our downtown (MV EDGE too)...
Threat of #UrbanRenewal continues to disassemble @CityofUtica downtown... @clmarohn @JoeUrbanThree @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/Kl87PfXtug— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 2, 2017
Per Empire Bath owner Cindy Miller, "When I purchased (the business) in ’08, we had a lease for 10 years,” she said. “Do I stay? Do I buy the building? Do I risk the hospital construction? How is it going to impact my business?"
But voters are telling candidates they do not want the $300M grant wasted on destructive urban renewal, bulldozing of Downtown Utica...
Thank you Matthew! Together in the #BattleToSaveOurCity... S.O.S. @CityofUtica #UrbanRenewal never worked, so why waste healthcare $$? pic.twitter.com/yrNxCbSs1n— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 2, 2017
Get to know Matt Downs... Matthew J. Downs For Oneida County Legislator.
September 29, 2017 - Sad stories are playing out, why must this persist? Utica's hospital system owns 64-acres just 1.75 miles away, and yet downtown property owners and businesses are being terribly impacted...
Spoke to someone today regarding this sad story https://t.co/8vrobEp8uB A crime that a diverse @CityofUtica neighborhood is being destroyed!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 29, 2017
We are seeking justice for property owners, businesses and taxpayers of Utica and Oneida County. Please join over 2,400 of us on Facebook at #NoHospitalDowntown.
Why has the true impact area never been shown and explained to Utica-area residents? Learn for yourself, take a look at the "Utica slow roll" by viewing the Changing Map of the Downtown Utica Hospital District.
A letter to Utica-area newspaper editors... Brett Truett Supports Lou Poccia
September 27, 2017 - The proposed Downtown Utica hospital district now has a candidate that says "No!", and will vote "No!"...
NoHospital Dwtn party on November's ballot, Utica Common Council candidate Lou Poccia back! https://t.co/HuLTUo1xD8 Oneida County Hospital— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 27, 2017
For a full recount of this news, please read Mr. Poccia's news release Poccia Wins Legal Battle
September 21, 2017 - Thank you to Strong Towns for coming to Utica last June for our 3-day event, and also for this Tweet today:
The state of New York is giving hundreds of millions to a hospital to destroy downtown Utica. #nohospitaldowntown https://t.co/6g7XXgg8Dz— Strong Towns (@StrongTowns) September 21, 2017
Read Urban Moats: Barriers To Growth In Rome, Utica & Schenectady by Strongtowns, they "study" urban design. Take the time and listen (30 minutes) to Strongtowns and Urban3 on Parking Minimums. A 1,000-car surface parking lot for a hospital is bad development for downtown! Read about smart development concepts by Urban3 Smart Growth (PDF) or this video Urban3: The Value of Downtown. Further, Upstate's very own Arian Horbovetz with his The Big Urban Mistake: Building for Tourism vs. Livability. These professionals who see danger of a huge downtown hospital district.
The #BattleForOurCity is far from over! In fact next week we'll be in Rome Court to support a "NoHospital Dwtn" candidate in his Article 78 challenge to the Oneida County Board of Elections
September 18, 2017 - Coming up later this month, a Rome court date that some #NoHospitalDowntown Group Members might want to attend... City of Utica, 1st Ward candidate Lou Poccia will appear on September 27, 2017 at 9:30AM to defend his signature collection process, this as Lou seeks to place his name on the "NoHospital Dwtn" party line in November. Please come support Lou and watch for yourself: Oneida County Surrogate Court, 302 N James St, Rome, NY 13440. Utica's 1st Ward includes the AUD and proposed downtown hospital location, here's the Utica, NY 1st Ward Map.
September 14, 2017 - The Utica newspaper finally realizes truth! The hospital, their board, and those behind the curtain will not make the climb, as they will not win the public who was NEVER part of the project...
Why climb Downtown Utica hospital hill? @MVHealthSystem today owns green 64-acres hilltop 1.7 mi away! #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/dq9opffEnr— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 14, 2017
The fact that ALL politicians and EVERY hospital board member (on the surface) voted in favor of this Albany-back concept, has to make one wonder why, and how?
Sadly the newspaper seems to pretend to take the #NoHospitalDowntown side. However, the UticaOD was never for the people, and they're still not looking out for the people. They just appear to be playing along, its all just optics, and so very sad.
No mind, we are going to make sure that those in charge of our regional healthcare at the PHHPC don't allow our healthcare to become mixed-up in this senseless, destructive and costly very urban renewal.
September 11, 2017 - Let's see if candidates who spoke out against higher taxes, the downtown hospital and a taxpayer-funded parking garage, make an impact tomorrow. Here are the area races; PRIMARY DAY 2017: Oneida, Herkimer & Otsego Counties.
We've not placed too much into the primary, or the political races. It's suppose to be all about healthcare, but that's not what we've seen. Yet we know its all about Proper Downtown Development, so get ready for #WDUCB in the coming months!
September 7, 2017 - Tonight #NoHospitalDowntown offered their side to the Utica Common Council as part of the council's formal Agrenda. Many in the crowd, and our growing online group, are becoming more visible and vocal.
'No Hospital Downtown' addresses MVHS, transparency concerns at https://t.co/u3IYduNDLi More people "living downtown", NOT the sick!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 7, 2017
Paul Kohan uses his 80 seconds, "Let's build it somewhere else, let's save downtown... listen to your community"...
Residents have 80 seconds to speak tonight. pic.twitter.com/TDqUwVIdrH— Melissa Krull (@MKrullTV) September 6, 2017
Thank you Melissa Krull for the reporting!
Packed house at the #Utica Common Council meeting tonight. Many are explaining their opposition to the proposed downtown hospital pic.twitter.com/cf5LNp3m4p— Melissa Krull (@MKrullTV) September 6, 2017
Odd that other outlets are avoiding what's the largest issue to ever face downtown. Our group is not against the hospital, but the location. What the hospital concept would do to Downtown Utica is unacceptable!
Co-founder of @NoHospitalDwtn says MVHS studies shouldn't be private when they request public funds. @WKTV— Audrey Russo (@AudreyRussoTV) September 7, 2017
Attempts to derail potential "NoHospital Dwtn" candidate has been countered, that as another "NoHospital Dwtn" pledge signer has this headline: Zecca: Palmieri Should Be Recalled From Office
Strikeslip, so wise...
Dear @NYGovCuomo / @HealthNYGov Resident of @CityofUtica & Oneida County are done w/ @AJPicenteJr & @MayorPalmieri https://t.co/HKS67GUDaI pic.twitter.com/grbzu94vfn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 7, 2017
September 4, 2017 - Taxpayers and residents are not fooled by hospital, economic development, babble...
Downtown @CityofUtica facing ill-conceived hospital due to past failures. Politicians NEED a HUGE demo, construction, activity! #wretched pic.twitter.com/bklQL6Ra6i— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 4, 2017
Barbara and many other writers have sent the Utica Observer-Dispatch such opinions, but for over two years the politicians and hospital ignore us. Next up, the court system...
September 1, 2017 - Utica Mayor suggests his regional congressional hopeful should call him first, so to "... Give me the opportunity to be able to show him where he may be wrong or I may be right..."
They keep stepping in it! Sm city mayor @MayorPalmieri calls out NY22 congressional hopeful @electheath #hospital pic.twitter.com/B1s0VsLSyw— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 1, 2017
September 1, 2017 - Hear what folks are discussing in and around Oneida County on a Downtown Utica Rooftop, in the Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood.
We've imagined what Downtown Utica could become so you can help stop it https://t.co/4gH35gOqKt Go to @CityofUtica City Hall Sept 6 @ 6:30PM pic.twitter.com/sPZp2RP1Au— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 1, 2017
August 30, 2017 - Read a full Text Version Of The City-County-Hospital MOA, or download a PDF version here: City-County-MVHS-MOA.
The City of Utica plans to give away properties to the concept, here's the list Exhibit A. For links to the properties and maps click here: City Of Utica Land Giveaway
A candidate for the 22nd Congressional District will visit Utica ... Read More
Tues, Aug 29th, 2017 at 10:30AM candidate Heath Phillips to speak at #NoHospitalDowntown HQ https://t.co/wA3Vyywr7K pic.twitter.com/bwDfaTUPTC— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 29, 2017
August 25, 2017 - A rally at the Utica Police Department, in front of the endangered site where bulldozers would destroy city assets to make way for a taxpayer-financed $42M parking garage. However, opposition only grows as costs and those that would pay is revealed.
Frederick Nichols speaks https://t.co/9gVXQYySBw is running for @CityofUtica 5th ward Common Council, he signed #NoHospitalDowntown pledge. pic.twitter.com/6gN5Ez8tIv— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 28, 2017
More and more voices will show and prove that #NoHospitalDowntown is; 1) Absolutely 100% positive on Downtown Utica development, and 2) Only seeks the VERY BEST outcomes for our regional healthcare...
Utica's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood has yet another voice, agrees w/ #NoHospitalDowntown listen to Paul Kohan https://t.co/CsDDZDlcUg pic.twitter.com/mwzNRmQZI6— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 27, 2017
Taxpayers and residents do have a say, attend meetings to let your government know your feelings.
We're tracking the City and county's moves on their MOU & MOA activities.
Wow! As opinions flow in from community leaders who support the Downtown Utica hospital concept, healthcare facts are nowhere to be found. As are critical disclosures...
A @foundationhoc board sanctioned position? Who was present, voted, how, anyone abstain? Or just another hand in Utica's #HospitalOfCards pic.twitter.com/ehB1uRcXa8— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 20, 2017
To learn more, join the discussion on the #NoHospitalDowntown Group page on Facebook. In due time Utica's #HospitalOfCards shall fall. Just how many will be exposed?
The media reported it here after the fact; Hospital Meeting Illegal Inappropriate. View documents and Meeting Details as we have them. Here's a direct link to now proposed 60/40 Taxpayer Hospital Parking Garage Debt Plan .
More after meeting reports in the Utica Observer-Dispatch and the Rome Sentinel This meeting went against New York State's Open Meeting Law.
What you can do? Make a call and or write a letter to your; Utica Common Council Members, your County Legislature, and if you can do more reach these other Contacts To Stop The Downtown Hospital Concept. Your calls and letters are the most powerful steps in keeping our taxes down, preventing bulldozers from destroying downtown, and seeing that precious healthcare dollars are not wasted on bad economic development (urban renewal) schemes.
The local media would not do this for over two years! However, Payne Horning of WRVO Reports On, And Shows, Full Impact Area of the proposed inner-city hospital district:
Thank you Payne! Worrisome still, is we've been both told and Shown how the "carve-out" around the city police station and city courts become "Hospital Support" - and would be bulldozed too!
So as we've reported and shown, the proposed downtown hospital concept would be a huge super block separating Utica's growing neighborhoods!
Should a new hospital be built in Downtown Utica, #NoHospitalDowntown offers some good news: Garage Parking FREE For All Utica City & Oneida County Residents Please join the Free Sticker Conversation on Facebook
Where is the budget and plan to handle the old facilities? They say they'd rid blight in downtown, but what happens to old hospitals?
Today, Old Main out-buildings on Noyes St. Tomorrow St. Luke's/St. Elizabeth's; shall they sit vacant? https://t.co/IINgvSkwlQ Where's plan?— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 12, 2017
Think back to Seward Avenue and the old Bendix/TRW plant. It sat vacant and was eventual torn down. Was that at taxpayer expense? Today it remains a big field of tall grass, a brownfield, any tax income to the city?
We are now a political force: No Downtown Hospital Group Getting Political, because there are just too many mistruths and many missing pieces to the downtown hospital concept. For example...
Hospital CEO keeps changing his numbers. Told Oneida County officials in May that the new IT System required will be $70-75 million (but didn't show the need in his budget), and yet during last week's illegal meeting, Perra shows that $46.1 million is enough for the "Medical equipment, Furniture and IT Systems...
CEO of @MVHealthSystem Perra's changing math, told Oneida County Leg IT Sys costs $70-75M https://t.co/lrr5ipb5xf pic.twitter.com/CneKLBJ4NN— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 9, 2017
Turn away the downtown hospital! Go with what's happening downtown today, per the Observer-Dispatch, OUR VIEW: Be part of the new emerging city of Utica. As well as new ideas from the $30,000 Downtown Startup Challenge; for example Steve Bulger on Downtown Startup Contest where Ryan Miller states, "While only one firm will win $30,000, there are probably four to a half-dozen new firms that will come out of this."
Bulldoze downtown, move around big boxes, and have taxpayers fund it... but don't make them part of it!
Look @MVHealthSystem super-creative "place making"! Steps; 1) bulldoze all historic buildings, 2) move around big colored modular boxes :-( pic.twitter.com/FdxFuFONNY— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 8, 2017
Read the July 27, 2017 MVHS Presentation and accompanying Spreadsheets. Three years and this is all they have? If you look at the presentation's "table of contents", were some entries withheld?
From New York's Open Meetings Law, where it reads:
What will our local media say and do about this?
The Landmarks Society of Greater Utica calls the downtown hospital concept "Senseless"...
Message from our @CityofUtica friends @UticaLandmarks Thanks for work regarding #HistoricPreservation w/ S.O.S. to @CityLab & @SavingPlaces pic.twitter.com/VoWuCJ4qkZ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 7, 2017
We fully agree! So what do our Politicians, Hospital Administration & Civic "Leaders" advocating for it, say to that?
Press Alert! Release on Mon w/ press conference Wed; the "NoHospital Dwtn" political party is on the march! #Utica #CNY Oneida County #Rome pic.twitter.com/mnnsm5Tbsk— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) August 4, 2017
The very ill-conceived downtown hospital concept (and the events and characters behind it) are faltering! We are just getting started, killing the concept was not easy, however this new phase will be fun: BetterUticaDowntown
Yes, our leading economic development agency (MV EDGE) has pretty much restored to extorting Utica officials, Warning to city: No garage, no new hospital. Great! As we don't want the Downtown Utica hospital anyway, and proposed parking facilities would be very damaging to our urban setting.
Just watch the video and read the post on parking (via our recent Battle For Our City! guest) Strongtowns: Parking Has Dramatically Shaped Our Cities (And Not In a Good Way). Submitted to #NoHospitalDowntown by way of our good friend Joseph Peter Drennan...
Utica blackmailed to build parking facilities! https://t.co/0ZOP1MeVoD Don't fall for it @CityofUtica very dumb idea https://t.co/YzWqE9ihcc pic.twitter.com/6W8V7BHdWn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 26, 2017
Extortion, maybe some blackmail behind the scenes(?), just a matter of time until this Utica story becomes a national story. How embarrassed will our leaders be? How silly do they wish to look? Just pull the plug on the Downtown Utica hospital concept already!
Assemblyman and aspiring Congressman, did you hear us? "Mr. Brindisi we don't want your White Elephant!"
What's that you say, more voices talking about the Downtown Utica Hospital concept? Odd, didn't someone recently say The Debate Is Over? Do not listen to such nonsense! Why? One new voice says "It's Wrong!", Mike Galime, Utica Common Council President
Dear @AJPicenteJr, debate not over, just getting started! Too often folks like you speak nonsense, but not this guy https://t.co/cVuMRhIBcC— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 20, 2017
What a bully! Who does MV EDGE work for?
Interesting, letters one finds on floor of @CityofUtica Common Council, more so, how does EDGE know critical parcels? pic.twitter.com/FiTfYCxzRm— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 19, 2017
We don't believe this is anyway to build a city, and this guy at EDGE is missing a big opportunity.
Dear @MayorPalmieri @SenGriffo @AJPicenteJr @ABrindisiNY your @NBBJDesign compares Apples to Oranges, NOLA Hospital a Super Block w/ blight! pic.twitter.com/mu1sV2mmlG— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 11, 2017
Also note, small Downtown Utica is NOT, the MUCH larger Downtown Buffalo...
Direct link to John Minicozzi & Chuck Marohn interview with Bill Keeler.
Happy day! Thanks @BillKeeler1 / @WIBXnews for posting our #BattleForOurCity speakers @JoeUrbanThree & @clmarohn https://t.co/cA0JPZqyaZ pic.twitter.com/dk0y8y6MZy— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 11, 2017
All this said, #NoHospitalDowntown started out our week talking with lawyers.
We are watching our politicians work hard to create a HUGE, 10-year, demolition and construction project. This while hospital care is given a backseat, for three years and counting...
Today in @CityofUtica a new @MVHealthSystem road sign to "Politicians' Hospital" is unveiled, however access block by @NYSDOTSyracuse lake! pic.twitter.com/ZvqrZTg4Nl— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 1, 2017
As one politician plans his escape route, he leads Utica's White Elephant into Downtown...
Without support from the general public and taxpayers, @ABrindisiNY prepares for Washington, but only after one last chore... pic.twitter.com/zINDplVplF— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) July 1, 2017
Join on group in tracking public sentiment and comment with over 2,000 members at #NoHospitalDowntown
Orin Domenico writes to us on June 26th, his essay begins "America's current form of government might quite accurately be called kleptocracy..." Read More
In #BattleForOurCity @UrbanThree's @JoeUrbanThree & @clmarohn of @strongtowns lands in OD https://t.co/IiXpfKCoKH pic.twitter.com/CaCKDPVjus— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 27, 2017
Thank you @StrongTowns for post https://t.co/IKt0w4H3YW Huge hospital district is NOT best use of Downtown Utica buildings, it's ruinous!— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 27, 2017
We've revised the lyrics of a Bob Dylan and Jane Jacobs song, titled "Listen, Robert Moses" to fit the pending doom facing the City of Utica. It's now called "Listen, Scott Perra"
We've updated these lyrics for proposed urban renewal in @CityofUtica they're here https://t.co/Vh3KoU6RSY Maybe @bobdylan to sign on 26th? pic.twitter.com/odb3jZ7HuI— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 21, 2017
This Monday #NoHospitalDowntown will hold a press conference, and one week later two guests will be in Utica to add to the hospital conversation...
Attn: Mohawk Valley, CNY, Utica-Rome, Media, #NoHospitalDowntown has press conference Monday, June 19, 2017 @10AM 10 Liberty St @CityofUtica pic.twitter.com/aNGjSZA7vy— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 16, 2017
The public is encouraged to attend Monday's press conference as well as the events planned for the following Monday June 26th - event details posted here "Battle For Our City!"
Read a public address by Karen Corrigan, of a long-standing Utica business Wilcor International
The owner of the New Hartford Shopping Center, and former Hospital Foundation Board President, says the Downtown Utica Hospital Concept Makes No Sense
Wow! Another prominent voice in Downtown Utica hospital debate! Saluting New Hartford Shopping Center owner Bill Morris #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/fTnAfRU3Uo— Brett Truett (@BrettTruett) June 10, 2017
In two weeks residents and taxpayers can hear from others, learn the best ways to redevelop a downtown during "Battle For Our City!" In the meantime you may join the conversion on Facebook
If you do not act, here's their next step for Utica's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood - it will be Bulldozed Beyond Recognition!
In case you missed, Senator Griffo wrote, Thank you for sharing your concerns with my office...
Ways we're building & why Downtown Utica hospital further dooms us! Via @StrongTowns Go to min. 38:40 https://t.co/zhqaCr7jxl #SaveTheDate pic.twitter.com/lYyroh8GK5— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 8, 2017
Please join Us, June 25-27th "Battle For Our City!", Utica NY
If you love history and Downtown Utica, here is an event for you! Join Landmarks of Greater Utica for a Narrated Walk of Downtown Utica's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood
#SaveTheDate Utica! Join @UticaLandmarks on narrated walk: Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood- Erie Canal era stories, walk buildings, #History pic.twitter.com/7kYsjtAV3K— BetterUticaDowntown (@BudsforBUD) June 6, 2017
Hear the history, walk the streets and alleys, as you tour buildings operating since the days of the Eire Canal. Much more to be announced around this date...
Please download a PDF version of the flyer, also invite your friends for this Narrated Walk of Downtown Utica's Columbia Lafayette Neighborhood! If you're on Facebook, then consider helping us save this same neighborhood from being bulldozed at #NoHospitalDowntown?
Perra states, "
Downtown Utica businesses, property owners, and "downtowners" rejoice! Politicians stand defiant as they cast blame on #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/iKM2cchJSD— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 4, 2017
What others said: Maureen Fitzgerald Murray (M.S., R. N.), Board President of Bassett Health Network, stated "
From Albany, Governor Cuomo stated, "
On the condition of anonymity, multiple former MVHS Board Members (the entire board was released), suggested "
Meanwhile, after repeated attempts to contact New York State Department of Health Commissioner Dr. Howard A. Zucker, it was reported "
From: Frank Vescera
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:28 AM
To: Joe Marino; Joe Marino
Cc: Frank Meolas; Lori Washburn; Lori Washburn; Lucretia Hunt; Jack LoMedico; John Jacon
Subject: Chairman Marino's Economic Development Committee Minutes - Downtown Hospital Legislation
At your screening for the nomination for the Democratic endorsement, in your re-election bid, you agreed to provide a
Then at the City Democratic endorsement meeting at the Polish Community Center you once again agreed to provide those minutes.
However, several weeks have now passed and the minutes for that committee meeting have yet to be received. Is it still your intention to keep that commitment?
Respectfully, Frank Vescera
Frank, Thank you for copying us with this request for public information. This request has now been posted on #NoHospitalDowntown Group on Facebook. It will go on our website as well. Transparency and accountability is paramount in the fight to save our downtown from urban renewal and destruction. Jim G. Brock, Jr., NPA Financial, Inc.
This week the architects for the new downtown hospital visited Utica, they even Tweeted From Their Hotel Utica Perch. Our media was treated to more PR firm-scripted press releases as the public was fed more disingenuous news stories. For example, today the Utica Observer-Dispatch Prints Another False Map NOT Revealing True Study Area...
Why are @uticaOD headlines questions? Not very good ones? How could a HUGE Downtown Utica hospital NOT impact it https://t.co/SSleBkNpFs— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 27, 2017
New York State offers The True Map, but one the media just doesn't wish to print, why? The Utica Observer-Dispatch keeps assigning different reporters, and hiding costs from the public, why?
We asked someone today, "Is it bad our group is so concerned about the huge unknowns of the proposed downtown hospital concept?" They replied,
"Well if you see a dog at close range, isn't it okay to question the owner about their dog's temperament? Or do you wait until after it bites you?" Exactly! The
Worried about the bite of a new hospital? If so, please join our Facebook Groups: #NoHospitalDowntown and BetterUticaDowntown
Healthcare dollars tossed-out, spending on media ramps-up! New 30-second commercial spots seek to influence and change public opinion on the Evil urban renewal bearing-down on Downtown Utica...
.@MVHealthSystem CEO uses fake budget #'s, omits #ITSYS https://t.co/lrr5ipb5xf @AJPicenteJr #Media along for ride + https://t.co/63cubAlnHp pic.twitter.com/AFp08o3bed— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 22, 2017
Stay tuned, we'll offer more satire and perhaps even "SNL" a few others taking part in these Paige Group Inspired Rebuttals to the "MVHS Hospital Needs A BandAid" community brainwashing TV spots.
A must read for Utica! Rochester native Arian Horbovetz, took a trip to Utica in January 2015. Looking to take a break from his Upstate photography business, his two-day Utica trip changed his life. What he did, and what he found, in Utica supercharged his "photo blogging" experience - and his readership! After seeing lots of Upstate towns and cities, at the street level, through his camera lens, and talking to lots of locals", Arian has penned a very important essay, its called "THE BIG URBAN MISTAKE: BUILDING FOR TOURISM VS. LIVABILITY". Go there and have a read, if you do you will understand why the downtown hospital concept is not a direction Utica should take. [Spoiler Alert: You will love the photographs!]
Let's make sure the RIGHT paths to development are taken! Residents of @CityofUtica and @MayorPalmieri please read https://t.co/p3MxfXnsll— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 20, 2017
Arian offers many other great stories and photographic splendors - you may want to grab a drink, and get comfortable. Spend sometime on his website, and you will realize that Upstate New York cities have a lot to offer. We know there are many who have departed (you know that you know a bunch) who would love to return. Let's make sure the RIGHT paths to development are taken, so when they return, they'll find livable cities and towns... oh, and ones that they will still recognize!
Well, the easier question, and one that has lots of obvious answers is, "What Is So Great About The St. Luke's Campus Location?"
Last week Mohawk Valley Health Ssystem CEO Scott Perra and Oneida County Legislature wanted to think about a financially, "In the black", downtown hospital. However the CEO dropped a bomb saying "There Are A Couple Of Bogey's Out There". Did anyone here it, or think of the
Still calculating, but honest @MVHealthSystem budget is more than 2x & we're not done w/ our spreadsheet! May we see @HammesCompany figures? pic.twitter.com/gnPWAdyJOo— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 18, 2017
This is very scary as the hospital has no cash, their fake budget is all "debt" and "gifts', and is largely on the backs of the taxpayer. We have our eye on each move; that our hospital, our government and the establishment trying to drive a hospital downtown is making. We are calculating the costs and impact of their concepts.
Now this week we are hearing about the Oneida County Executive's; three new buildings, a playground, walking trails, hops farm, and an ice skating rink concept opposite the targeted hospital site. However no budget, no timeline and no parking for the AUD was offered. Thus we have more concepts to consider and we are tying them directly to Fiasco General that seeks to wipe out downtown Utica first...
So you want a #DowntownUtica @MVHealthSystem hospital? Ok bulldozers are done, go ahead build your medical district! pic.twitter.com/70aeuSxw8u— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) June 10, 2016
This past Wednesday, CEO Perra disclosed; not only are the City & County looking for taxpayers to pay for a $41,000,000 parking garage, MVHS Has The Added Cost Of A New I.T. System At The HUGE Price Of $70,000,000 To $75,000,000!
Asked if new @MVHealthSystem to run in black? CEO says 'Couple of BIG bogies' https://t.co/lrr5ipb5xf IT = Expensive https://t.co/I7B82IfOE7 pic.twitter.com/TL8ZQ6ZvKk— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 14, 2017
Many costs are not in the $450 million budget. And Perra added, the downtown hospital would need to budget a million dollars per year just to maintain the proposed parking garage!
More reasons to "Kill the downtown concept", and also worrisome is Turner Construction MVHS's selected builder, as they had a BIG hand in another Maligned Hospital Project.
More was learned about the ever-changing story. Sadly this is the first time the County Legislators have heard from the hospital, in-spite of having already spent between $250,000 and $500,000 of Oneida County taxpayer funds.
55 minutes of @MVHealthSystem CEO Perra, new stories told, falsehoods revealed, all on "tape". Stay tune, we can't wait to go to court!!!! https://t.co/U5psDNDMz6— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) May 10, 2017
Newly emerging from the background of the "Downtown Hospital Concept Caper", the law firm who lobbied to place NYS taxpayers $300 million into debt - how much did that cost Oneida County taxpayers? - yes, none other than Former Oneida County Executive, Raymond A. Meier Ray was there today too...
Also today, old-school political face arrives onto @MVHealthSystem scene! Joining old faces, a lawyer or political influencer? #YouDecide pic.twitter.com/EQO8ncdOFz— CoLaFa (@CoLaFa1) May 10, 2017
So there was a lawyer present, but still no answers to our Burning Questions. Maybe they'll talk about them over dinner tonight? Oh well, #NoHospitalDowntown will present audio of today's presentation, and continue to document the falsehoods that continue to flow - please check back!
Senator Griffo is first with a response He's Busy, But We'll Be Expeditious... Meanwhile we await a reply from three other Utica-area Politicians as we try to understand who's making expensive and critical healthcare decisions that will impact the region for the next 50-75 years.
Join #NoHospitalDowntown as we gain momentum in turning -back the very ill-conceived hospital concept. Let's place hospital improvements onto the Large 64-acres Site At St. Luke's
The mail took some time, but the Senator's letter arrives Thank you for sharing your concerns with my office...
Mr Scholefield's email, and the response, can be found here Robert Scholefield's West Utica Citizens Meeting Meanwhile we await the reply from Utica-area politicians; letters sent seeking clarification; for example Assemblyman Brindisi (Image) or (PDF)
Chief Operating Officer (COO) of Mohawk Valley Health System, Mr Robert Scholefield spoke this past Wednesday at the West Utica Citizens Forum. A loud audience demanded, "Why downtown? We don't want you to build downtown, build at St. Luke's 64-acre campus!"
However, Mr. Scholefield confirmed" "Assemblyman Brindisi & Senator Griffo Told Us The Money Is Only For A Downtown Utica Hospital"
You may also listen to Mohawk Valley Health System CEO Scott Perra On The Joe Kelly Show, where he confirms the same thing.
However, this conflicts with what taxpayers and residents have been told for almost two years now. It was widely reported The Hospital Searched Within A 10-mile Radius Of Utica, found 12 sites fitting their requirements, then it was narrowed to three, and finally two sites were unanimously voted on by the MVHS Board of Directors. To great fanfare, it was proclaimed, "Hospital Picks Downtown"Brindisi Confirms To #NoHospitalDowntown The Hospital Picked Downtown...
"Downtown Hospital?" at Utica Citizens Forum: Scholefield says https://t.co/JCeCK3eWO6 Not what @ABrindisi119 said! pic.twitter.com/GHklaLIq96— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 29, 2017
We have just sent letters to area politicians seeking clarification; One Copy (Image) was Hand Delivered Earlier Today (PDF), more as we have it.
One news outlet covered the hospital "town hall"...
A citizen was met with great applause when she said she wished the proposed downtown location was a referendum @WKTV https://t.co/ucj4Yjd3Fm— Ana Richardson (@arichardsonwktv) April 27, 2017
Joe Kelly offers listeners an Introduction, MVHS CEO Scott Perra goes first and explains the Hospital's Views On Downtown Location. Then in Part 3, our group follows-up with #NoHospitalDowntown Views...
Watch @MVHealthSystem vs. #NoHospitalDowntown— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 25, 2017
Part 2 https://t.co/mbJg8ET9op
Part 3 https://t.co/hz6grlZsYB pic.twitter.com/sP5jrTcXQ4
Thank you Joe Kelly! To watch other great shows on community topics, please go to The Joe Kelly Show
For two years the hospital has been unable to answer basic questions. Strong Opposition forced the hospital to Hire A Public Relations Firm simply to talk with residents and taxpayers, and the only two sessions held with the public showed a Downtown Utica Hospital Lacks Public Support - see another view of the Faces Of The Hospital PR Firm's Efforts.
Still the hospital and politicians march along; they hoped a Utica Chamber of Commerce Endorsement would help, it did not, and the bad information keeps turning up...
Corning much smaller city needs at least 30 acres https://t.co/3ZfWvjCiAA In bigger Utica, future "Nano Meca", less? https://t.co/PXs3OCJMhk pic.twitter.com/ddbDBIDX72— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 24, 2017
Why are your Utica-area Politicians Playing Games With The Mohawk Valley's Healthcare?
Join #NoHospitalDowntown as we gain momentum in turning -back the very ill-conceived hospital concept. Let's place hospital improvements onto the Large 64-acres Site At St. Luke's
What was so wrong with the large 64-acre plot at the current St. Luke's Campus, right across from the symbiotic Utica College? Politicians say the Hospital Board wanted downtown, yet today CEO Perra blames top location pick on "area politicians"...
War of words, finger pointing; what of timing of Mohawk Valley EDGE, hiring @HammesCompany? Watching https://t.co/w6IsVGhyst … #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/8o8dSJg6yG— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 24, 2017
We'd be very delighted if everyone stopped supporting the downtown concept and started focusing on another location. That way our new friends at Better Utica Downtown and 40+ businesses within Historic Downtown Utica's Columbia-Lafayette Neighborhood could get back to focusing on their businesses.
Great visit to NYC, poked around Greenwhich Village, then to film, conversations on sidewalks and in theater...
Recommended Jane Jacobs, Battle For The City. Viewed yesterday, spoke to others, made great contacts, thanks April! pic.twitter.com/2keoNB4Bq5— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 22, 2017
Can Utica's "Fiasco General" withstand much more? Listen to the growing Voices of Dissent on Utica’s Proposed Downtown Hospital Location Next up, national embarrassment...
After nearly two years of investigations and protest, Utica-based Group #NoHospitalDowntown will picket the sidewalks around New York City’s Lincoln Center... Read More
Dear @AJPicenteJr @ABrindisi119 @MayorPalmieri @SenGriffo @NYGovCuomo @steven_dimeo @UticaChamber https://t.co/L8hizscMiP #MVHS = #Waterloo— CoLaFa (@CoLaFa1) April 20, 2017
Press Release (PDF), please join us at New York City’s Lincoln Center
The Utica-area economy has fallen so far... people wanted good jobs, yet many had to leave as they had no choice. This as the world changed, but politicians did not address the problems at their roots. They created new agencies, tried endless business attraction schemes; added prisons, dangled BIG carrots at some firms (most never materialized, some did, but didn't last), buildings were torn down to make way "for the future", a distribution center added, and other businesses shuffled around and hailed as great progress... all while small local firms just chugged along.
Some local entrepreneurs took chances on old buildings, various store fronts, using modern themes and trends, they gave downtown Utica a new upswing. Then a few years ago, as Nano still wasn't materializing and Cuomo was thinking VERY BIG, huge sums were offered to Upstate cities. Teams went to work trying to find ways to make big splashes. The local Mohawk Valley team (heavily Utica-weighted) dreamed-up a modern downtown and wove-in themes of "technology", "research", and "students". To make it even better - they planned to fix a downtown area (picked by Hammes Company), one they called "functionally obsolete"and "blighted" - this location was so central to the passer-by's eyes, WOW! - what an impact it would make!
However the concept ran into trouble, many calculations were not made, and many details overlooked. Somebody outside "the team" was paying attention! Worse the "inside team" was using an old playbook, and also just assumed any companies and or people "in the way" could be dealt with. However, the "inside team's" concept, to use "better healthcare" and "great new shiny buildings", didn't impress nor fool everyone.
#NoHospitalDowntown was born, but politicians just ignored us. To this day, their plans grow ever bigger and concepts added; a beer museum, a second incubator, meeting spaces, two large parking garages, a casino, new roadways, ball fields, and a connected harbor. Yes, it's getting bigger and better in their eyes. Unfortunately in the public's eyes too, as our area media just prints the "inside team's" stories without deep questioning. Sadly the details for the short and longer costs, who's paying for it all, and what it all looks like is missing?
Utica & Oneida County always spending, adding to taxpayer debt... https://t.co/jOztWMqoKL Many concepts, so very few details! #politicians pic.twitter.com/lVHfja1KGQ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 19, 2017
Yesterday we watched a business group support the inside team, but no new facts, no new insights, just the same old lines politicians have been using for over two years. This as they appear to live in comfortable insulated bubbles; one doesn't drive his taxpayer-financed black SUV, he's got two drivers who sit inside as he chats outside on the cell out of earshot; press conference over, time to call to pass the inside team's update "On up the ladder".
We feel it is time to expose the "inside team" and the politicians within it and or just playing along. Eventually they'll drop their big smelly mess...
Guess we need to add a couple more birds to help carry their stench @paigegroup @LtGovHochulNY Actually seems like we need to add 10 more... pic.twitter.com/F07TPorFVj— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 14, 2016
Yesterday we heard the Utica Chamber of Commerce would hold a press conference on the downtown hospital concept. Not being born last night, we started preparing to document the Chamber Of No Commerce
This past week we heard Mohawk Valley Health System CEO Mr. Perra say, We were kinda pulled into Downtown, a lot of people thought it was a good idea. However in September 2015, Utica-area Politicians Told Us That The Hospital Made The Call!
New Oneida County Casino Game: "He Said, She Said"https://t.co/h6x2OB41do— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 16, 2017
vs.https://t.co/G599ro7aFz#Utica #Hospitalgate Enough said! pic.twitter.com/yOuZidwIgQ
One theory, Steve DiMeo hoping to be seen as an overachiever aiding Governor Cuomo, pulled-out all the stops to rebuild a downtown he sees as "obsolete and totally blighted". He's wrong, and his downtown hospital concept will fail.
The good news is that we'll save Utica from joining 20 Failed Projects Involving Eminent Domain Abuse, where we read: "The argument is always the same... tax-hungry bureaucrats and land-hungry developers claim that the use of eminent domain is necessary for economic development. They promise everything from high-rise condominiums to trendy shopping malls, all in the name of more taxes and jobs. There is a strong incentive for cities and developers to over-hype the benefits of individual private development projects involving eminent domain in order to garner political and public support. But it turns out that many of these projects are failures. This report details 20 prominent examples"
Hey @CityofUtica don't join "20 Failed Projects Involving Eminent Domain Abuse" https://t.co/TneHYDEuXw— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 17, 2017
And avoid years of court delays too! pic.twitter.com/KUGSSVBAFT
For over two years the region has heard of a "new and transformative hospital", one which has cast large storm clouds over 34-acres of downtown. Politicians placed it into downtown, yet today not one uses the "H" word...
So odd, largest Oneida County healthcare transformation in history of Mohawk Valley, yet none use word "hospital"? pic.twitter.com/yoIevw2Y22— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 9, 2017
Good, we're tracking their every move...
From the Utica Observer-Dispatch archives: Years planning changes began in the mid-1960's, on two projects that would change the face of downtown Utica, and its skyline too! This aerial photo, looking west, was taken in April 1967 and shows vacant lots just to the south of Oneida County Court House In The Center Of This Photo. A few months later, construction would begin on the $10 million, 10-story Oneida County Office Building and the $11 million, 16-story State Office Building.
For more stories from the Utica newspaper, pick from the headlines at: Ten Years Of Downtown Utica Development
Every time news pops-up about the new Utica hospital concept, emails, text messages, and social media brings more intelligence and questions to our attention. We've looked back in time and tried hard to keep up with the changing headlines, it's not very easy. However, we have mapped-out the ecosystem of players, properties and theories. Our war rooms have lots of information, for example like this...
869 Days— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 6, 2017
124 Weeks & 1 Day, or
Since Fiasco General placed dark clouds over Downtown Utica via @uticaOD When did others 1st know? pic.twitter.com/uWbOsq8Gar
As new voices come forth, be sure that #NoHospitalDowntown will remain committed to protecting Utica's Downtown Businesses, our Historic Buildings and small-city street grid. It's the right, and only thing to do, and any modern day urban planning firm would agree!
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Mr. Cuomo failed to deliver an on time budget today. However, the govenor Announced Details of A Fiscal Year 2018 State Budget Extender
In this "Extender" Cuomo proudly announced $300 Million that's been promised for years for a new Downtown Utica hospital. Oddly the grant, by way of a NYS Grants Gateway has not named a winner, nor even informs taxpayers of the Oneida County grant opportunity.
Read about how MVHS wins the day... "$300 Million for Utica Hospital: New York State has awarded $300 million for the Mohawk Valley Health System to build a modern and efficient hospital in downtown Utica. This 392 bed, 750,000 square-foot world-class health care facility will replace the outdated and obsolete St. Luke’s Hospital Campus and St. Elizabeth Medical Center, further integrating the system of care in Oneida County. The new state-of-the-art hospital will offer emergency, acute inpatient, outpatient, primary care and other health care services in a single downtown location, improving the accessibility and quality of health care in the region. Mohawk Valley Health System’s project, awarded via competitive RFA, will strengthen the fiscal stability of the regional health care system, save taxpayer dollars, and bring thousands of jobs into downtown Utica." But where was MVHS named as the grant winner?
"No mind", is likely Mr Cuomo's attitude. What better way to show the local Mohawk Valley politicians lining up behind Cuomo, that Albany "has their backs", by jumping the gun and stating specifics of an undesigned hospital and one without a Certificate of Need (C.O.N.)!
Cuomo names @MVHealthSystem funded! for Downtown Hospital https://t.co/zNEjkWBELz Odd, there's no grant, nor awardee https://t.co/e678qNPCil pic.twitter.com/LK5XduvBo0— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 4, 2017
Be it known, most residents do not support a downtown location. Also, a number of the 40+ businesses and property owners plan to fight the takeover of their property.
We have tracked what we call #Hospitalgate step-by-step and after the "Question & Answer" period first ended, the NYSDOH posted Two Pages Of Q&A's How is it that today we find Forty Three Pages Of Q&A's? And still, how does Cuomo name the fund recipient today, when we did not even hear about a grant winner?
Lastly, the original NYSDOH website said the winner would be announced at the end of February 2017. That never happened, but we now have Cuomo's message? So Mr. Cuomo, this downtown hospital concept must be all yours!
Time is now to begin to tell Mohawk Valley Health System "No" with your wallet! They are currently entering into the "silent phase" of their capital campaign to raise money for the ill-conceived downtown hospital district.
Fund focused organizations! If @MVHealthSystem requests your healthcare donation, you must think! Will you fund #Healthcare or bulldozers? pic.twitter.com/XzFiR44azn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) April 2, 2017
Let's tell them if they go downtown then the community will not support them financially or otherwise. We do have a say! So when they reach out to you, "JUST SAY NO!", no money until they announce they're not going downtown. Afterwhich, we're ready and committed to help raise money.
So many buildings have been torn-down for surface parking, and our Oneida County Executive "exclaims proudly" he has done more; His Announcement and Project Nears Completion This and the Hotel Utica in recent months knocked down its historic parking garage for a surface lot.
Not only do these steps destroy the character of the city, they destroy the tax base. It's like "suburban sprawl" within our city, terrible mistakes...
Urban intelligence we should heed! Learn just how WRONG a Downtown Utica hospital is https://t.co/hWnmZgre9Q @MayorPalmieri @AJPicenteJr— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 27, 2017
Learn more from -
Utica is a small city and land is in very short supply. Utica cannot afford a fifth hospital district. Will Utica learn before it is too late?
The monthly West Utica Citizens Forum
#YogiBerra "It's like déjà vu all over again", as @MVHealthSystem cancels yet again! https://t.co/vyrH8rrT87 Can't defend downtown hospital! pic.twitter.com/3BENKJ7GVn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 24, 2017
For almost two year #NoHospitalDowntown has followed (and often generated) the much-needed debate over the downtown hospital concept... one that seeks to bulldoze 34 acres of Downtown Utica. We say, why destroy downtown streets, alleys and historic buildings - and displace 40+ businesses!! - when St. Luke's today owns 64-acres across from Utica College?
This week a Columbia-Lafayette property owner shared a letter sent by a Eminent Domain law firm called Biersdorf & Associates This firm must mine database to find potential clients, in the case of Mohawk Valley Health System's Downtown Utica Hospital, it seems that a NYS Department of Transportation alerted the law firm.
Utica, NY: Eminent Domain real threat to business & property owners. Hospital warning trigger by @NYSDOT database, via attorney pitch letter pic.twitter.com/LpBLwaFPhm— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 14, 2017
MVHS's St. Luke's Campus today owns 64-acres, yet they just do not seem to care about the 40+ businesses within Historic Downtown Utica's Columbia-Lafayette Neighborhood.
Say hello to Biersdorf & Associates on Twitter @CondemnationLaw, get to know the NYS Eminent Domain Procedure Law and notes on the NYS DOT's website NYS DOT Engineering Division Office of Design: Eminent Domain Procedure Law
Utica has three hospitals sites, plus 100-acres largely abandoned at Old Main. At St. Luke's there is already a medical district near Utica College. This district has a "green" $15 million dollar co-generation power plant, lots of room with 64-acres, which is enough space to build a new hospital, medical office building, and allow for future expansion. So why move the hospital into the compact area of downtown? The proposed area is very close to CSX freight tracks, which haul 100-car long oil trains. Read More...
Shown here is the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation's CRIS: Utica Hospital Consultation Project area. Will a huge part of Downtown Utica be bulldozed for Utica New York's 5th hospital district?
Downtown Utica Hospital Zone: Per #CRIS NYS Office of Parks, Recreation & Historic Preservation https://t.co/fZRfLvnKT9 bulldoze 30+ acres? pic.twitter.com/feskvoGbFt— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 2, 2017
A question in today's Utica Observer-Dispatch - their story headline - reads: Downtown hospital: Could it come to eminent domain? Yet the answer is in the very article, and it's "Yes", if the hospital board continues to push the ill-conceieved Downtown Utica location...
Hey @IJ we can help you win in NY https://t.co/8tM3X81gv2 don't give up on the people, hospital owns land elsewhere pic.twitter.com/zASFajdbre— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 3, 2017
We say "Make it ALL about health care!", build at the St. Luke's Campus which is the Mohawk Valley Health Systems 2nd Unanimous Site. as they've stated:
The situation has changed. Politicians and hospital administration called us the "vocal minority", but of course they're wrong and just talking their talk. However over the last weeks, things have changed, momentum has taken hold and new members have arrived...
1st a video https://t.co/OJmf0Ybs82 Monday's meeting, another, phone calls: "Yes, the cavalry has arrived!" Dwtn Utica hospital flames grow! pic.twitter.com/sJCWTP0CiS— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) March 1, 2017
Prepare for the new "Better Plan", as we defeat "Fiasco General" and as more facts, people's true feelings, and stories are heard. Will anyone catch some heat? Please join us
Our Oneida County Historian writes, "One for all, and all for one is not in the DNA of Oneida County/Central New York"
Long-time resident and business owner, William Corrigan Speaks Out Against Proposed Downtown Utica Hospital concept...
Why add a 5th, very ill-conceived, out-of-scale, hospital district? Hear William Corrigan, "A Better Downtown Utica" https://t.co/OJmf0Ybs82— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 17, 2017
As does this reader of the Utica Observer-Dispatch, Joanne Sirtoli today...
Hospital NOT what Downtowners want, other concerns about revitalizing Downtown Utica NY... https://t.co/WLEgIRGdgT pic.twitter.com/lxB2v8RL7l— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 16, 2017
Recently the founding members of #NoHospitalDowntown spoke with the Utica Observer-Dispatch's Editorial Board. We're looking forward to their take on what we shared and we'll update you here later on (see below Tweet).
#NoHospitalDowntown in the news:https://t.co/pervKQedsy— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 26, 2017
Our group's opinion, but countered by @uticaOD opinion! pic.twitter.com/TIrbLrzgbJ
Politicians had hopes, a concept, and yet they we're backed by bad community actors (sound oddly familiar New York?). Now the people are driven to their next step...
Utica-based healthcare & politicians "People of the Mohawk Valley vs. New York State Department of Health" #NoHospitalDowntown #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/R7tRF3yG05— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 9, 2017
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Landmarks Society president Steven Grant pens letter to his members regarding Mohawk Valley Health System's concept for a Downtown Utica hospital...
Dear @CityofUtica a hospital district is stepping backwards! Go to your past, make Utica a place to visit and live! https://t.co/OMWCXkMEqX pic.twitter.com/dCa0HfnGmL— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 8, 2017
Bottom line: 1) What do the planners have in mind at this point? 2) What urban fabric will be left if everything is razed? 3) Historic buildings are going to be demolished to create some sort of green space?
Did you miss the MVHS's "public information" sessions? If so, here's the questionnaire that was distributed at the sessions.
How did it happen? What was wrong with the St. Luke's Campus? They had 64-acres on a green hilltop! Wasn't the new police station and courthouse campus a perfect setting next to the AUD? How on earth did this happen? Yes, so many future questions, but it's just "Too sad, too bad" now...
Is it just 10 days until @MVHealthSystem big $300M "bulldozer payday"? https://t.co/F5QWP6Jyqb Say goodbye to large part of @DowntownUtica pic.twitter.com/Qkp1ApIiE0— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 5, 2017
Are St. Elizabeth's and St. Luke's Campuses still sitting empty? Boarded-up and costing taxpayers money? And what about the tremendous costs over-runs of the hospital in downtown; a new courthouse, new police station and maintenance garage, with Comets fans and hospital visitors paying for parking... and no one feels very safe! Why are all these nefarious people hanging around the hospital district?
Can't something be done? Who's idea was this anyway Mr. Brindisi?
Want to fix a problem at home? Better to get out-of-town help...
Bye-bye Upstate, @CityofUtica, hello icy Hudson, off to Big Apple. Small-city hospital drama, to face big-city power pic.twitter.com/vDnMMhQ90B— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 1, 2017
What will people of Utica do, those marching forth with their derelict concept? This, when they must answer to people wholly uninterested in who they know, and impervious to what locals thought they'd receive via our small-city's "Friends & Family" plan?
Perhaps the foolish hospital concept is just what was needed? Just the event to finally (once again) move Utica away from the politics of old?
The Utica Observer-Dispatch Captures Citizen Lou Critelli Yelling, misses audio, but it's caught here..."We don't want you to dig!"
.@uticaOD best '17 photo, but misses "We don't want you to dig!" yelled by Utica NY resident https://t.co/6UAORe41UN #hospital #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/xedfeYIWv5— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) February 1, 2017
About the only people seeking to bulldoze Downtown Utica are deaf politicians, and tainted community leaders, who seek to grab fame and make a "real estate buck" on the backs of taxpayers and our country's disgustingly expensive and ineffective health care system.
Does Cuomo even care? Or does Cuomo just want billions in construction to show that he can build, regardless if it's good, bad, or just down-right stupid.
On December 11, 2015 Hospital Board Chairman Norm Siegel said they'd "...study the re-use of our old hospitals, before a dime was spent on downtown plans". That has not been the case. We know nothing of repurposing our old hospitals. Will our old hospitals remain open for the poor? Is the new downtown hospital to only be for the rich, those who can afford private rooms?
One day in the sad future of Downtown Utica... might the poor to be placed on buses bound for St. Luke's, Faxton and St. Elizabeth's? While the rich and well-insured stay at "Millionaire's Healthcare"...
Plans for old hospitals promised by @MVHealthSystem Chairman Norm Siegel before spending a dime on downtown! Hey is downtown just for rich? pic.twitter.com/dSbP5tVw8t— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 29, 2017
Look at the demographics of Utica, we're a poor city. The well-to-do go out of town for their health care, just ask your politician. If they're honest you will hear they do not go to Utica hospitals. This will not change with a new one, and soon - they will not go downtown for entertainment - as
Today's paper tries to wallpaper over the illegal Downtown Utica hospital concept, read it here in Architects talk about designing hospital for Utica's future
A Utica-area resident responds: "1) Will it keep existing streets and intersections open? Otherwise it will interfere with development and accessing businesses and properties blocks away from the facility. (2) Will it include "mixed use" facilities? Otherwise it will be inconsistent with the official public vision (the Master Plan) for Downtown. (3) Will it conform to the Gateway Historic District's design requirements? Otherwise it would appear to be illegal under our zoning law! (4) Will it preserve the existing businesses in the district? Otherwise there will be a loss of jobs and tax revenues. (5) Will it replicate the Police Maintenance garage? Otherwise taxpayers will have to fund a replacement. The final design can meet all of these requirements -- if MVHS is willing to spend the money needed to meet non-hospital requirements" Frank Montecalvo
And we ask further, "What's so great about the architect's other projects?" What's with Swedish Medical that they offer as a reference? What's also true about their reference hospitals they're not telling us? Don't worry, we're investigating...
MVHS Hospital CEO, Oneida County Health Department Director, and a City of Utica employee make their cases for a Inner-city Hospital District. Followed by founding members of this group...
Utica, Mohawk Valley, gets #Insight @MVHealthSystem vs @NoHospitalDwtn https://t.co/4Lgx6y5Xah #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/AZpCkoT5xZ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 21, 2017
What do you think? Head over to #NoHospitalDowntown we'd love to gain your support and comments!
While the Utica Mayor has been largely silent on the hospital concept, Mike Galime Makes A Video Statement. We hope this brings this ill-conceived, and politically-backed, concept out into the light of day.
Utica Common Council President asks people & leaders of @CityofUtica area to question downtown hospital concept https://t.co/P6VPYBvDYk— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 19, 2017
The above video release was followed-up with Mike Galime Speaking With WUTQ Regarding The Downtown Hospital Concept Lack Of Transparancy...
#NoHospitalDowntown agrees w/ @mikeforutica "We have a lot to lose" https://t.co/6kjWMtmYS2— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 21, 2017
It's over! @NYGovCuomo pic.twitter.com/Ecp3cVMuLE
The Utica OD editors say "keep moving forward", in spite of facts that make a hospital impossible!
Does @uticaOD just relishes controversy, hoping to sell more newspapers? https://t.co/BcxbrZzJcQ #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/UfVP4ZoEQH— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 17, 2017
Downtown hospital "IS NOT" a done deal!
The proposed downtown hospital is just that - a proposal. Ask Mohawk Valley Health Systems President Scott Perra and Vice President Robert Scholefield and it's a done-deal. They have admitted though, many steps remain in negotiations with landowners. MVHS believes it WILL purchase this property. What if the landowners don't sell? Somehow it seems this question never occurred to MVHS management. The city and hospital both say no to eminent domain. Therefore this proposal relies on landowner cooperation. What if landowners don't cooperate? The answer? Landowners owe MVHS nothing.
At the Jan. 10 forum, Perra was asked about revenue loss from displaced businesses. He essentially stated a downtown hospital with its "$480 million" price tag would "relatively quickly" outpace current economic activity. He ignores that his numbers are taxpayer dollars funneled into artificial economic "growth" in an area where many did not ask for this project and remain opposed to it.
MVHS is not entitled to downtown simply because they have been given a golden goose by state taxpayers. Perra should speak with folks who have raised their geese downtown, organically. If local leaders continue to build as THEY wish instead of working with residents, I'm afraid all of our eggs may end up scrambled." CRAIG MILES, Clinton
Consider this: Per the reporting of Kim Slowey @kimslowey of Construction Dive, "...the fate of the Affordable Care Act under a new administration is up in the air and has stalled, to some degree, planning for new medical facilities. Under the existing healthcare policy, construction of smaller, community-based clinics has thrived in order to meet the ACA goals of increased patient monitoring."
We believe New York State Governor Cuomo is seeking a very visible "Temple In Downtown Utica" and thus instead of improvements to hospitals we already have, and adding new clinics or urgent/primary care facilities, Utica New York is fighting "Fiasco General"... Cuomo wants BIG:
Dear Utica/Marcy Nano, Albany G450C dream dying https://t.co/hspmJfKZTJ Cuomo sought BIG visiable projects- don't destroy Utica w/ hospital! pic.twitter.com/XqIBAWdUAZ— Brett Truett (@BrettTruett) January 14, 2017
The Utica AUD can attract 6,000 people at musical events, 4,000 for hockey. The AUD management has also said they want to expand, that's great. The Oneida County Executive is also leading a new NYS Authority in the same direction it seems, NYSSEFA
If one reads about mass gatherings, accidents, as well as the increased chance for terrorism-type incidents; why would the region's prime Mohawk Valley Health System hospital district wish to be relocated within 1,000 feet of the AUD? Meanwhile, the DOT is seeking to narrow and slow-down East-to-West traffic flows in downtown.
Attempting to place our hospital into Downtown Utica, next to large-scale public events, when the hospital currently owns 64-acres on a green hilltop - under two miles away! -
Oh, and there are those
Oil train passes Union Station, proposed downtown hospital site 2,000 ft away https://t.co/7f1JL9BzWU Not long ago https://t.co/0TJvOIDu5o pic.twitter.com/yosqrUbmLW— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 9, 2016
The Mohawk Valley Health System COO Bob Scholefield and the head of his hired Marketing/PR firm looking pleased sharing a story with the CNY Business Journal. It's a tall tale about a politically-backed $600M to $1B, Downtown Utica temple - a.k.a. "Fiasco General" - or simply put "their concept for a poor, inner-city, hospital district. One that would become Utica's 5th hospital district. Which might explain the other look on the PR firm's CEO's face as she listens to taxpayers and residents...
Two Faces of Public Relations: (a) 12/27/16 Telling a story https://t.co/NLqqXORqbj & (b) 1/10/17 Hearing taxpayers https://t.co/L3GYR2xkRG pic.twitter.com/cJ9bxa83su— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 16, 2017
Did the hospital administration and board of directors, the politicians backing the concept, and the PR firm (The Paige Group) hired, finally hear the news? If so, or if they had the courage to take a poll, it's very clear a majority of residents and taxpayers are squarely against their Downtown Utica Hospital concept.
High tension @MVHealthSystem downtown #uticahospital forum, @TWCNewsCNY https://t.co/6UAORe41UN Did we get through? https://t.co/IteMc3J3Gv pic.twitter.com/5FHGSVzvIU— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 14, 2017
An inner-city hospital is far from the best use of Utica's Columbia-Lafayette Neighborhood. Adding to that, there are (today!!) 40 businesses located where the politicians have directed the hospital - making it simply unconscionable!
Downtown Utica has been on a new uptick, and to continue this trend is critical, a 34 or even a 25-acre hospital district would be pure destructive urban renewal. And the people don't want this HUGE, politically-backed, infrastructure project very sadly disguised as "improved health care"!
Annex St Lukes' 64-acres, integrate healthcare & allow Downtown Utica to develop! https://t.co/7PMXI7Rwvw That's what "the people" want!!! pic.twitter.com/F01CqqnjSw— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 14, 2017
For months, #NoHospitalDowntown has asked, "Why does the City of Utica display false information on their website?" Mr. Ron Vincent asks it again at the MVHS forum, as he waves his research on zoning, as well his documentation showing Utica is also ignoring the City's Master Plan...
Final @MVHealthSystem public meeting! https://t.co/L3GYR2xkRG Politically-back, ill-conceived, #UticaHospital concept exposed! #hospitalgate pic.twitter.com/CmmMZOiEta— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 12, 2017
Take action, join us on Facebook and Twitter, spread the word and we can turn-away this silly hospital concept with your help! Together we can seek better health care, keep downtown authentic, walkable and a place that people want to live and tourists will visit.
Fall 2014 legislation requesting $300M specified "public engagement", has @MVHealthSystem CEO Perra been asleep? pic.twitter.com/rNO1ZQBnXF— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) January 12, 2017
The Mohawk Valley Health System has made wrong turn, after wrong turn. They started hearing from politicians early on, and then Mohawk Valley EDGE influenced their Board of Directors, did the hospital forget to read the request for funding, or did they plan to just ignore the public?
Public engagement was known to be a requirement since 2014...
.@HealthNYGov people/taxpayers of @CityofUtica seek chance as law requires; https://t.co/KV3M6Ehbfm Our No 1 suggestion: #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/OIFk3mq2e2— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 24, 2016
Pictured, front page of today's @uticaOD we're one of 2016 top stories https://t.co/oBL1INdXWf #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/OqF589eWLm— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 30, 2016
"True & complete transparency of government"? Ha! A Downtown Utica hospital dream https://t.co/p7Y3aHjryz @BondLawFirm pic.twitter.com/AECyTgdWmm— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 27, 2016
How EVERYONE has become entangled in @CityofUtica's Fiasco General #hospitalgate #Cuomo #Upstate Health care. 1,400+ https://t.co/vVkvVnmEo6 pic.twitter.com/tSwPn2mzkr— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 22, 2016
Just out: @amsAnalog pulls @CityofUtica plan as their #CreativeClass workers seek cool @VisitAustinTX urban scenes, NOT Downtown hospitals! pic.twitter.com/zQELoMhwpe— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 21, 2016
Read the ten (10) questions and answers submitted in the quest for $300 Million Dollar to build an "Oneida County Healthcare Facilities Transformation"; they're posted here: Grant DOH01-Oneida-2016, Questions & Answers Posting (PDF)
We are sure there would have been many more questions had the NYS DOH truly announced the grant application with a standard media press release. Why all the secrecy? We're talking about $300 million of taxpayers' hard earn wealth!
Is Utica's hospital really ready to listen? Their website has a comment interface, but it is turned off. Why? They said they were ready to listen, but hired a Marketing, PR & Crisis communications firm.
Can't listen w/ Comments Off/Closed! https://t.co/XtZOclXpOt We're never "On" to begin with! @paigegroup hired for "Crisis communications" pic.twitter.com/Di7Ai5fRo6— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 13, 2016
The firm The Paige Group says, "there will be no filter". But they'll work around that, and the hospital will get what they need for their politicians, simply by using "selective listening".
.@paigegroup You're Genius- you can now help deliver what the politicians want! No Filters, Just Selective Listening #hospitalgate lives on! pic.twitter.com/Iwm30fvhJD— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 13, 2016
Last night County Executive Anthony Picente, Jr. displayed his "selective eyesight" to residents at the South Utica Neighborhood Association meeting. He confirmed he's been to St. Joseph's Hospital in Syracuse and walked around. When told that the area is surrounded by blight, vacant and partially vacant buildings, he replied "I think your looking at the wrong things."
Let's see how this all goes.
Per Mr. Michael Galime, Utica Common Council President, regarding targeted Downtown Utica area that the hospital seeks: "That's A Business District That's Alive & Well Now"
YES! @wutqfm talks w/ @mikeforutica Mike Galime https://t.co/huPKIMsMyG He says "NO" to Eminent Domain for @MVHealthSystem hospital concept pic.twitter.com/NZmzPq8LIS— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 7, 2016
We agree! The ill-conceived hospital concept has to be turned-away. Allow the Columbia-Lafayette Neighborhood to developed much more properly. You can help, contact your government representatives and the media Links Here
Talk to your health care providers too, let them know you oppose the Downtown Utica hospital concept. It's not good for health care, and it's also destructive Urban Renewal for a large portion of downtown.
The efforts to build will be derailed by court battles, over the very questionable use of eminent domain. Way behind now, we'll stall their bad concept for many more months, years. Join us now on Facebook at #NoHospitalDowntown
This past week we were very encouraged, the hospital had told residents Hospital Officials Ready to Listen. Next a local radio station called and #NoHospitalDowntown Had A Chance To Speak. A TV program in Syracuse called too. It was looking like a great week to debate the topic we’ve advocated against for over a year and a half; the ill-conceived Downtown Utica hospital district.
After nearly three years politicians have planned, and twice granted $300 million, to fund their Oneida County health care transformation – however no one was ready to discuss it on a TV panel? Calls to hospital and politicians revealed no one wanted to appear on WCNY; the show was canceled. Our opportunity to debate, after the hospital said it was ready to listen, and they could not listen and or defend their $300 million 3 year old concept?
.@wcny / @sarbetter Saddened, #NoHospitalDowntown was ready in Feb 2015 https://t.co/WB9xW4Cy9A An Oneida County Healthcare Transformation? pic.twitter.com/SwmyugN7cs— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 2, 2016
One has to wonder, what is wrong with the 64 acres at the St. Luke’s Campus, which the hospital has been accumulating for expansion and is bought and paid for? Why a drive to displace 40 businesses and bulldoze a neighborhood when Downtown Utica is on a new upswing?
We love Downtown Utica; see our discussion on Facebook or track the story on Twitter
why do other want to bulldoze 34-acres for an inner-city hospital district? The other side will not talk, so just when will they get to work on the region's healthcare system? Three years have passed so far...
Brett Truett and Lynne Mishalanie, advocates against a hospital concept for Downtown Utica, remind WIBX listeners "it's only a concept" and that Assemblyman Anthony Brindisi says, "the downtown location is not in stone..."
#NoHospitalDowntown discuss ill-concieved, urban renewal-style, hospital concept w/ Keeler https://t.co/psBr4EDuB1 disrupting #CityofUtica pic.twitter.com/kGYfsZ3EdE— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) December 2, 2016
Take action, join us on Facebook and Twitter
The Hotel Utica Getting New Name, Upgrades but new owners will also need to protect the Hilton and Doubletree brands. We also hope that the new management, Visions Hotels will protect the building's heritage and what remains of the next door Historic Columbia-Lafayette Streets Neighborhood.
If one looks at Vision's Website you'll see modern, but almost cookie-cutter hotels - save the Adam's Mark Buffalo Clean and great service, however none look like the Hotel Utica, nor appear to share the character of Hotel Utica. Will Visions Hotels care about this and the surrounding neighborhood?
#NoHospitalDowntown is hoping Visions Hotels "does right" by Downtown Utica and the hotel's new brands We are doing what we can:
.@NoHospitalDwtn channeling #visions hotels congrats coming to downtown Utica keep Utica authentic for your patrons #NoHospitalDowntown pic.twitter.com/LTKuG6A0WB— Joe cerini (@joe_cerini) November 30, 2016
Our Facebook Group #NoHospitalDowntown has been tracking the misguided urban renewal concept backed by politicians for over 18 months. Their concept is to buy and bulldoze 34 acres in Downtown Utica for an inner-city hospital.
Hey Utica, Mohawk Valley & CNY: Happy Thanksgiving 2016! But did you hear about Thanksgiving 2017 in #DowntownUtica? Bulldozers, a Hospital! pic.twitter.com/NSOT5jWobv— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 24, 2016
Take action, join us on Facebook and Twitter, spread the word and we can turn-away this silly hospital concept with your help! Together we can seek better health care, keep downtown authentic, walkable and a place that people want to live and tourists will visit.
Hospital activist group seeks answers; MVHS offers meetings. This per the Utica Observer-Dispatch as group says We want to talk about the downtown hospital
Check out this comment: https://t.co/FsDa787FTL— Donna Beckett (@DonnaBeckett8) November 19, 2016
No news to the public or newswires (we're not surprised), but today we detected New York's $300 million dollar grant- one they've spoke about for 3 years! Learn more at Health Care Facility Transformation Program: Oneida County Request for Applications #1505060325, Grants Gateway ID: DOH01-Oneida-2016
The hidden metatag "description" text on the NYS Department of Health's website reads:
"NYSDOH and DASNY announce the availability of HCFTP funds of up to $300 million: Oneida County, as established pursuant to Section 2825-b of the Public Health Law (PHL), for capital project(s) located in the largest population center in Oneida County that will consolidate multiple licensed health care facilities into an integrated system of care (including acute inpatient, outpatient primary and other health care services)."
Keyword metatags used: rfa, 1505060325, grants gateway, DOH01-Oneida-2016, oneida county, licensed health care facility consolidation(s)
We are tracking this and you can join us in the discussion at #NoHospitalDowntown on Facebook.
Odd, but not surprising, no conversation about why a totally new campus or where it should be located! But today we hear that the Mohawk Valley Health System is now ready to listen to taxpayers, this regarding their Downtown Utica hospital concept. Really? After two years, and three budget cycles, the Mohawk Valley Health System hires a marketing firm. Why hire a marketing/PR company "to listen"?
MVHS Announces Community Engagement Program For New Hospital https://t.co/GYmdPz7uwn— News Radio 950 WIBX (@WIBXnews) November 10, 2016
We've anticipated this "conversation" for 1-1/2 years, but as we suggested, it sounds like taxpayers will only have votes on the number and position of the bike racks and park benches. So #NoHospitalDowntown was right all along -
We have been asking questions, talking, setting and going to meetings, debating (mostly amongst ourselves), making calls, and investigating - for about sixteen months! "Why?", you might ask. We'd reply, "Because Downtown Utica is under attack!"
Just last week the Mohawk Valley EDGE & MVREDC were in Albany seeking $5.5 million to buy land for a downtown hospital, a hospital that is only just a concept, shrinking, and not even fully funded! Additionally, voters, taxpayers and residents have never had a public Q&A on Governor Cuomo's "Transformational Hospital", even though our political leaders have been working on spending $300 million of our money since the fall of 2014!
Is #NoHospitalDowntown starting to catch a break? Is our group's work & conversations paying off? Might we save Downtown Utica from being sold-off to those wishing to make handsome profits off the nation's soaring healthcare costs?
Sorry, we just have to ask since MVHS's (?) "Healthcare Consultants" offer a class called Real Estate 101 for Healthcare Executives In the video, Hammes Company explain how high-wealth individuals can target marquee locations (even if the properties/buildings are not for sale), and make big profits on "MOB" or Medical Office Buildings (Hospitals, doctor offices, etc.)
Today, the Utica Observer-Dispatch reports in their Op-Ed OUR VIEW: Proposed hospital plan still on critical list
Thanks to #PeopleWhoLoveUtica like @josephdrennan @RowJimmy1 @DonnaBeckett8 @joe_cerini @JONMH might the @uticaOD help us save our downtown? pic.twitter.com/gLLEgYilL4— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 9, 2016
We must remain vigilant until the MVHS Board of Directors announces that 1st choice Downtown Utica location has been rejected, and their unanimously agreed on 2nd location adopted at St. Luke's
Your phone call today could make the difference, take action and Make Healthcare The First Priority & Keep Downtown Utica Walkable & Authentic!
A sad, a terribly frightening, story! A Utica doctor's words in today's Observer-Dispatch “Until then, I have to try to keep him alive and keep him from harming himself or anybody around him.”
We've heard of the terrible addiction problems in our region for years now. Today, we hear that Oneida County doesn't have a medical detoxification facility. This, at the same time although licensed for 570 beds, two of our hospitals have empty floors and are staffed for only 400 beds!
(1/2) @bobbyo1967 No medical detoxification facility in Oneida County! Per @OD_Roth @uticaOD https://t.co/EhYdsJpzzi pic.twitter.com/CeJ7W3HfyQ— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 5, 2016
The Mohawk Valley region has wasted 3 years as "Albany's Unique $300 Million Gift" for improved healthcare has gone nowhere; this as our misguided politicians have the Mohawk Valley Health System thinking about economic development - not the region's health care!
An observation: @GreenHosp offers help https://t.co/jvGEzyRYUK Utica @MVHealthSystem hospital w/ 4K staff, doesn't even use word "Addiction" pic.twitter.com/qMGnAYuHCK— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) November 7, 2016
So let's place this travesty at the feet of our Politicians and the Mohawk Valley EDGE. This as they pursue their ill-conceived, destructive urban renewal-style Downtown Utica hospital district, but not before they bulldoze a major portion of Utica's Central business district
The City of Utica, and ironically a Few Boards Of Directors Of Various Economic Development Agencies & The Hospital System have a plan to Bulldoze Downtown Utica Help us take action to stop this ill-conceived concept...
#NoHospitalDowntown moving to the streets! Join us to protest Fiasco General: No funding for hospital, yet @CityofUtica to fund bulldozers!? pic.twitter.com/Bu0qv9nyYn— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 17, 2016
Each time #NoHospitalDowntown looks to find facts, the reasons for supporting the politically-backed downtown hospital, we find troubling information like this. Hammes is the "engineering company" that studied the site selection work done by Mohawk Valley EDGE; they studied the costs of a new hospital at the St. Luke's campus vs. "going downtown", they then confirmed that the downtown site could work as costs were comparable. Continue reading...
The Common Council unanimously passed legislation on March 16, 2005 that designates a 120-acre portion of downtown as the Gateway Historic Canal District However, today the City of Utica Website shows a false and misleading Scenic & Historic map. Why?
The proper and legal representation of the city's zoning Should Show The Correct Legal Designations!
Why is @CityofUtica posting false information? Hiding legal facts from @MVHealthSystem & developers? Recording facts https://t.co/VnuqGD8B5Q pic.twitter.com/OcXjYtRO9m— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) October 6, 2016
One has to wonder why the city does not show the correct legal information. Also, what other information is the City of Utica dispensing that is false? The corruption in Albany would appear very much at home here in Utica...
As The Utica Observer-Dispatch starts to seek questions On The downtown Utica hospital from planners, please keep-up the drumbeat of letters in your local newspaper. Calling the editor(s) first will help. You can even ask for a larger letter, Opinion Page, feature if you have a significant amount of factual information to offer. The future of Downtown Utica is at stake! We cannot allow hospital and suburban sprawl ruin our historic, small-scale, downtown. Grab a pen, the phone and or email (provide your phone number so they can confirm your words are yours).
Mr Ron Johns, Executive Editor
221 Oriskany Plaza
Utica, NY 13502
Phone: (315) 792-5008
Email: Ron Johns
Send two copies, and or make two calls, both Mr Johns and Dudajek will be glad to have your thoughts and opinions...
Mr Dave Dudajek, Opinion & Viewpoints Editor
221 Oriskany Plaza
Utica, NY 13502
Phone: (315) 792-5090
Email: Dave Dudajek
This according to the Utica Observer-Disptach in their Editorial "OUR VIEW: Hospital Answers Needed"
Is @uticaOD now thinking, writing, for themselves? Or does @ABrindisi119 money arrive Friday? #Cuomo DOH to rescue! pic.twitter.com/tgK3UFRt8G— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 27, 2016
What's an enigma? It's defined as Someone Or Something That Is Difficult To Understand Or Explain.
This reminds us of the quote by Chief Joseph "It Does Not Require Many Words To Speak The Truth" Readers comment online, they ask more and have other questions...
Ben Hammer - "The article states the biggest question surrounding this proposed fiasco is paying for it. While that is important, it is not the biggest question. The biggest question is WHY do we need it? Only after a truly identifiable need can discussion of funding begin. Instead, this entire mess has turned into the current shiny object for our band of crooked politicians to chase after. Shame on them."
Rodger Potocki - "The numbers presented already show that the primary funding for the hospital is the taxpayer. At the same time, the project is being controlled and managed by people and groups with no direct ties or accountability to we taxpayers. This is a very questionable approach which, as we've seen all to often, could have significant effects on the public purse, usually negative."
As we look for truth about the ill-conceived downtown hospital, we are confident taxpayers will get and see more of the government that they've been hearing about out of Albany and across Upstate. We agree with Chief Joseph above, and say, "If their concept is so great, why is it so hard for them to explain and finance (without the taxpayers!)?"
First clue, it's been said the Downtown Utica hospital was an effort to expand economic development in the "downtown region". Second, the MVHS Hospital leadership and the City of Utica seemed not to understand their roles, and that's why taxpayers only had the Mohawk Valley EDGE and government leaders touting their push for downtown.
Give us a few days, will are connecting the local dots in order to answer some questions that need to be asked and answered...
Syracuse's @syracusedotcom dives into corruption case https://t.co/4cJkLnmQw0 Will the @uticaOD do same, or report all Utica projects safe? pic.twitter.com/RM5I3Edyim— #NoHospitalDowntown (@NoHospitalDwtn) September 24, 2016
If Utica and or the hospital fiasco escapes the current and ongoing scandal, perhaps those involved will be glad they were not capable of getting their local "ducks in a row" faster?